What time in the evening was it? About half-past ten. Had you a headlight on your engine? Yes, sir. Had you a light on the other end of your train? No, sir; only my own lamp. You were at that end? And a red light; yes, sir. You had a red light, as well? Yes, sir. Do you know the number of the engine which collided with yours? Yes, sir; 310. What was the number of yours? 176. Was engine 310 flagged? I presume it was, according to my helpers' statement. Your helpers are here, are they? Yes, sir. You had enough helpers to give the necessary flagging? I believe I had; I had two. To how many of these new men did you give signals who were unable to answer or failed to answer the signals? I should say three or four. Did you have any conversation with any of them in relation to the signals? No, sir; well, I had a conversation with one; I gave him a signal and he says, "I don't understand that signal." Was that signal which you gave him and which he said he did not understand the usual signal given by railroad men? Yes, sir. The same signal which has been used on the road all the time you have been in its employ? Yes, sir. When was that, about what time? That was a couple or three nights before I left. Commissioner Marsh: State what conversation between you and him there was at the time he told you he did not understand that signal? I merely gave him a signal to back up. He says, "Partner, I don't understand that signal." I merely says to him, "What kind do you understand--steamboat signals?" He says, "No, stationary engines." William G. Frisbie was examined by Mr. Sullivan and testified: Q. Were you on the train to which engine 176 was attached? A. I belonged to that crew. At Hawthorne, March 22. I belonged to that crew? Yes, sir. Did you flag 310 that night? I did. State to the Commissioners how far you went from your own engine, 176, to flag 310, the one which collided with it? I can tell you perhaps better by car lengths; I can make a guess at the number of feet. I did not measure it exactly. I should think it was in the neighborhood of 1,500 feet to 2,000 feet that I was back of where our engine stood. I found the train was not coming to a stop, and kept going back myself as long as it was possible, giving them all the swing that it was proper and right to stop him. He paid not the slightest attention to my signal; never even whistled for brakes until after his train passed me. Did you start back as soon as your train stopped to flag? Yes, sir. You went as far as you could? Yes, sir. Re-direct examination by Mr. Sullivan: