The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 1Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 1
Madison, James
Constitutional law -- United States; Constitutions -- United States; United States. Constitution
"No motley or feeble measure can answer the end, or will
finally receive the public support. Decision is true wisdom,
and will not be less reputable to the Convention than
salutary to the community.
"I shall of necessity remain here ten or twelve days. If I
have reason to believe that my attendance at Philadelphia
will not be mere waste of time, I shall, after that period,
rejoin the Convention."--_Hamilton's Works_ (Lodge).
THURSDAY JULY 5^{TH} IN CONVENTION
M^r Gerry delivered in from the Committee appointed on Monday last the
following Report.
"The Committee to whom was referred the 8^{th} Resol. of the
Report from the Committee of the Whole House, and so much of the
7^{th} as has not been decided on, submit the following Report:
That the subsequent propositions be recommended to the
Convention on condition that both shall be generally adopted. I.
that in the 1^{st} branch of the Legislature each of the States
now in the Union shall be allowed 1 member for every 40,000
inhabitants of the description reported in the 7^{th} Resolution
of the Com^e of the whole House: that each State not containing
that number shall be allowed 1 member: that all bills for
raising or appropriating money, and for fixing the salaries of
the officers of the Govern^t of the U. States shall originate in
the 1^{st} branch of the Legislature, and shall not be altered
or amended by the 2^d branch; and that no money shall be drawn
from the public Treasury but in pursuance of appropriations to
be originated in the 1^{st} branch. "II. That in the 2^d branch
each State shall have an equal vote."[125]
[125] This report was founded on a motion in the
Co[~m]itte made by D^r Franklin. It was barely
acquiesced in by the members from the States opposed
to an equity of votes in the 2^d branch and was
evidently considered by the members on the other
side, as a gaining of their point. A motion was made
by M^r Sherman. He acted in the place of M^r
Elseworth who was kept away by indisposition, in the
Committee to the following effect "that each State
should have an equal vote in the 2^d branch;
provided that no decision therein should prevail
unless the majority of States concurring should also
comprise a majority of the inhabitants of the U.
States." This motion was not much deliberated on nor
approved in the Committee. A similar proviso had
been proposed in the debates on the articles of
Confederation in 1777, to the articles giving
certain powers to "nine States." See Journals of
Cong^s for 1777, p. 462.--Madison Note.
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