The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2
Madison, James
Constitutional law -- United States; Constitutions -- United States; United States. Constitution
N. H. ay. Mass. ay. C^t no. N. J. no. P^a no. Del. no. M^d no.
Virg^a ay. M^r Blair & M^r M. no. M^r R, Col. Mason and
Gen^l Washington[25] ay. N. C. ay. S. C. no. Geo. no.
[25] He disapproved & till now voted ag^{st} the exclusive
privilege, he gave up his judgment he said because it was
not of very material weight with him & was made an essential
point with others who if disappointed, might be less cordial
in other points of real weight.--Madison's Note.
Question on Originating by H. of Rep^s & _amending_ by Senate, as
reported Art IV. Sect. 5.
N. H. ay. Mass. ay. C^t no. N. J. no. P^a no. Del. no. M^d no.
V^a[26] ay. N. C. ay. S. C. no. Geo. no.
[26] In the printed Journ Virg^a--no.--Madison's Note.
Question on the last clause of Sect. 5, Art: IV--viz "No money shall be
drawn from the Public Treasury, but in pursuance of _appropriations_
that shall originate in the House of Rep^s. It passed in the negative--
N. H. no. Mas. ay. Con. no. N. J. no. P^a no. Del. no. M^d no.
V^a no. N. C. no. S. C. no. Geo. no.
Adj^d.
TUESDAY AUG. 14[27]. IN CONVENTION
[27] General Henry Knox wrote to Washington from New York under
date of August 14th:
"Influenced by motives of delicacy I have hitherto forborne
the pleasure my dear Sir of writing to you since my return
from Philadelphia.
"I have been apprehensive that the stages of the business of
the convention, might leak out, and be made an ill use of,
by some people. I have therefore been anxious that you
should escape the possibility of imputation. But as the
subjects seem now to be brought to a point, I take the
liberty to indulge myself in communicating with you.
"Although I frankly confess that the existence of the State
governments is an insuperable evil in a national point of
view, yet I do not well see how in this stage of the
business they could be annihilated--and perhaps while they
continue the frame of government could not with propriety be
much higher toned than the one proposed. It is so infinitely
preferable to the present constitution, and gives such a
bias to a proper line of conduct in future that I think all
men anxious for a national government should zealously
embrace it.
"The education, genius, and habits of men on this continent
are so various even at this moment, and of consequence their
views of the same subject so different, that I am satisfied
with the result of the convention, although it is short of
my wishes and of my judgment.
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