The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2
Madison, James
Constitutional law -- United States; Constitutions -- United States; United States. Constitution
M^r Williamson was for postponing instead of striking out, in order to
consider whether this might not be a good provision, in cases where the
Judiciary were interested or too closely connected with the parties.
M^r Ghorum had doubts as to striking out. The Judges might be connected
with the States being parties--He was inclined to think the mode
proposed in the clause would be more satisfactory than to refer such
cases to the Judiciary.
On the Question for postponing the 2^d & 3^d Section it passed in the
negative.
N. H. ay. Mass^{ts} no. Con^t no. N. J. no. Pen^a abs^t.
Del. no. M^d no. V^a no. N. C. ay. S. C. no. Geo. ay.
M^r Wilson urged the striking out, the Judiciary being a better
provision.
On Question for striking out 2 & 3 Sections Art: IX
N. H. ay. Mass. ay. C^t ay. N. J. ay. P^a abs^t. Del. ay.
M^d ay. V^a ay. N. C. no. S. C. ay. Geo. no.
Art X. Sect. 1. "The Executive power of the U. S. shall be vested in a
single person. His stile shall be "The President of the U. S. of
America" and his title shall be "His Excellency." He shall be elected by
ballot by the Legislature. He shall hold his office during the term of
seven years; but shall not be elected a second time."
On the question for vesting the power in a _single person_--It was
agreed to nem: con: So also on the _stile_ and _title_.
M^r Rutlidge moved to insert "joint" before the word "ballot," as the
most convenient mode of electing.
M^r Sherman objected to it as depriving the _States_ represented in the
_Senate_ of the negative intended them in that house.
M^r Ghorum said it was wrong to be considering at every turn whom the
Senate would represent. The public good was the true object to be kept
in view. Great delay and confusion would ensue if the two Houses sh^d
vote separately, each having a negative on the choice of the other.
M^r Dayton. It might be well for those not to consider how the Senate
was constituted, whose interest it was to keep it out of sight.--If the
amendment should be agreed to, a _joint_ ballot would in fact give the
appointment to one House. He could never agree to the clause with such
an amendment. There could be no doubt of the two Houses separately
concurring in the same person for President. The importance & necessity
of the case would ensure a concurrence.
M^r Carrol moved to strike out "by the Legislature" and insert "by the
people." M^r Wilson 2^{ded}. him & on the question
N. H. no. Mass^{ts} no. Con^t no. N. J. no. P^a ay. Del. ay.
M^d no. V^a no. N. C. no. S. C. no. Geo. no.
M^r Brearly was opposed to the motion for inserting the word "joint."
The argument that the small States should not put their hands into the
pockets of the large ones did not apply in this case.
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