The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2
Madison, James
Constitutional law -- United States; Constitutions -- United States; United States. Constitution
M^r Williamson was in favor of making two thirds instead of a majority
requisite, as more satisfactory to the Southern people. No useful
measure he believed had been lost in Congress for want of nine votes. As
to the weakness of the Southern States, he was not alarmed on that
account. The sickliness of their climate for invaders would prevent
their being made an object. He acknowledged that he did not think the
motion requiring 2/3 necessary in itself, because if a majority of the
Northern States should push their regulations too far the S. States
would build ships for themselves: but he knew the Southern people were
apprehensive on this subject and would be pleased with the precaution.
M^r Spaight was against the motion. The Southern States could at any
time save themselves from oppression, by building ships for their own
use.
M^r Butler differed from those who considered the rejection of the
motion as no concession on the part of the S. States. He considered the
interest of these and of the Eastern States, to be as different as the
interests of Russia and Turkey. Being notwithstanding desirous of
conciliating the affections of the East: States, he should vote ag^{st}
requiring 2/3 instead of a majority.
Col: Mason. If the Gov^t is to be lasting, it must be founded in the
confidence & affections of the people, and must be so constructed as to
obtain these. The _Majority_ will be governed by their interests. The
Southern States are the _minority_ in both Houses. Is it to be expected
that they will deliver themselves bound hand & foot to the Eastern
States, and enable them to exclaim, in the words of Cromwell on a
certain occasion--"the lord hath delivered them into our hands."
M^r Wilson took notice of the several objections and remarked that if
every peculiar interest was to be secured, _unanimity_ ought to be
required. The majority he said would be no more governed by interest
than the minority. It was surely better to let the latter be bound hand
and foot than the former. Great inconveniences had, he contended, been
experienced in Congress from the article of confederation requiring nine
votes in certain cases.
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