The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2
Madison, James
Constitutional law -- United States; Constitutions -- United States; United States. Constitution
M^r Gov^r Morris. Such declarations were he supposed, addressed to the
smaller States in order to alarm them for their equality in the Senate,
and induce them ag^{st} their judgments, to concur in restoring the
section concerning money bills. He would declare in his turn that as he
saw no prospect of amending the Constitution of the Senate & considered
the section relating to money bills as intrinsically bad, he would
adhere to the section establishing the equality at all events.
M^r Wilson. It seems to have been supposed by some that the section
concerning money bills is desirable to the large States. The fact was
that two of those States (P^a & V^a) had uniformly voted ag^{st} it
without reference to any other part of the system.
M^r Randolph, urged as Col. Mason had done that the sentence under
consideration was connected with that relating to Money bills, and might
possibly be affected by the result of the motion for reconsidering the
latter. That the postponement was therefore not improper.
Question for postponing "each member shall have one vote,"
N. H. div^d. Mass. no. C^t no. N. J. no. P^a no. Del. no.
M^d no. V^a ay. N. C. ay. S. C. no. Geo. no.
The words were then agreed to as part of the section.
M^r Randolph then gave notice that he should move to reconsider this
whole Sect: 1. Art. V. as connected with the 5. Sect. Art. IV. as to
which he had already given such notice.
Art. V. Sect. 2^d taken up.
M^r Gov^r Morris moved to insert after the words, "immediately after,"
the following "they shall be assembled in consequence of," which was
agreed to nem. con. as was then the whole sect. 2.
Art: V. Sect. 3. taken up.
M^r Gov^r Morris moved to insert 14 instead of 4 years citizenship as a
qualification for Senators: urging the danger of admitting strangers
into our public Councils. M^r Pinkney 2^d him.
M^r Elseworth, was opposed to the motion as discouraging meritorious
aliens from emigrating to this Country.
M^r Pinkney. As the Senate is to have the power of making treaties &
managing our foreign affairs, there is peculiar danger and impropriety
in opening its door to those who have foreign attachments. He quoted the
jealousy of the Athenians on this subject who made it death for any
stranger to intrude his voice into their Legislative proceedings.
Col. Mason highly approved of the policy of the motion. Were it not that
many not natives of this Country had acquired great merit during the
revolution, he should be for restraining the eligibility into the
Senate, to natives.
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