The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2
Madison, James
Constitutional law -- United States; Constitutions -- United States; United States. Constitution
N. H. no. Mass. no. C^t ay. N. J. ay. P^a ay. Del.[21] no.
M^d no. V^a no. N. C. no. S. C. no. Geo. ay.
[21] In the printed Journal Delaware did not vote--Madison's
Note.
M^r Rutlidge was opposed to leaving the power to the Legislature--He
proposed that the qualifications should be the same as for members of
the State Legislatures.
M^r Wilson thought it would be best on the whole to let the Section go
out. A uniform rule would probably never be fixed by the Legislature,
and this particular power would constructively exclude every other power
of regulating qualifications.
On the question for agreeing to Art. VI. Sect. 2^d
N. H. ay. Mass. ay. C^t no. N. J. no. P^a no. M^d no. V^a no.
N. C. no. S. C. no. Geo. ay.
On motion of M^r Wilson to reconsider Art: IV. Sect. 2; so as to restore
3 in place of seven years of citizenship as a qualification for being
elected into the House of Represent^s.
N. H. no. Mass. no. C^t ay. N. J. no. P^a ay. Del. ay. M^d ay.
V^a ay. N. C. ay. S. C. no. Geo. no.
Monday next was then assigned for the reconsideration; all the States
being ay. except Mass^{ts}. & Georgia.
Art: VI. Sect. 3. taken up.
M^r Ghorum contended that less than a majority in each House should be
made a Quorum, otherwise great delay might happen in business, and great
inconvenience from the future increase of numbers.
M^r Mercer was also for less than a majority. So great a number will put
it in the power of a few by seceding at a critical moment to introduce
convulsions, and endanger the Governm^t. Examples of secession have
already happened in some of the States. He was for leaving it to the
Legislature to fix the Quorum, as in Great Britain, where the requisite
number is small & no inconveniency has been experienced.
Col. Mason. This is a valuable & necessary part of the plan. In this
extended Country, embracing so great a diversity of interests, it would
be dangerous to the distant parts to allow a small number of members of
the two Houses to make laws. The Central States could always take care
to be on the Spot and by meeting earlier than the distant ones, or
wearying their patience, and outstaying them, could carry such measures
as they pleased. He admitted that inconveniences might spring from the
secession of a small number; But he had also known good produced by an
apprehension, of it. He had known a paper emission prevented by that
cause in Virginia. He thought the Constitution as now moulded was
founded on sound principles, and was disposed to put into it extensive
powers. At the same time he wished to guard ag^{st} abuses as much as
possible. If the Legislature should be able to reduce the number at all,
it might reduce it as low as it pleased & the U. States might be
governed by a Juncto--A majority of the number which had been agreed on,
was so few that he feared it would be made an objection ag^{st} the
plan.
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