Were you one of his hearers?—Yes. Were you acquainted with Mr. Patrick?—Not till the report was made respecting Mr. Church. Did you know him as one of the congregation attending Mr. Church?—No, I cannot say I did. Were you with Mr. Patrick on any day that he went to Mr. Church’s house—I mean on the 9th of October?—Yes, a few days after the report. Did you go into the house with him?—No, I did not. You were at the door?—I staid outside. Had you learnt from Mr. Patrick that he was going to Mr. Church’s upon the subject of this business?—Yes. By Lord ELLENBOROUGH.—Did he tell you that he had a letter, and was going to make inquiries of Mr. Church?—He called upon me at my house to go with him. By the COMMON SERJEANT.—And told you he was going to Mr. Church’s upon the business of this inquiry?—Yes; indeed it was my request that he should. Mr. Thomas went to speak to his wife; and it was at my wife’s request and Mrs. Patrick’s I believe that he went. Your wife joined in her request?—Yes. How long might his interview with Mr. Church last—how long was he in the house?—He seemed to be a long while; not much less than an hour. As near as you could guess, the time, was it near an hour?—Yes. When he came out did you put any questions to him respecting what had passed between; him and Mr. Church?—Yes. What questions did you put?—I asked him what Mr. Church had said. What answer did he give you?—He said that Mr. Church did not say any thing. He said Mr. Church seemed very much confounded on account of the cause, he supposed, but he said nothing about it; that it would be injurious to the cause of God. He did not say the _cause of God_, but I only supposed he meant the cause of God. By Lord ELLENBOROUGH.—Did he use the words “cause of God?”—No, he said Mr. Church seemed very much confounded or confused. Then the rest is all imagination of your’s?—We both imagined alike. I don’t know that these were exactly the words, for I cannot call to my mind what he did say; but it was conjectured the cause of God, and which we heard afterwards was abused abroad. You are now called, Sir, for the purpose of contradiction. You are recollecting the effect, you know, of a conversation and communication with Mr. Patrick, and you must say truly what passed, if you can recollect it.—I don’t recollect all that passed. By the COMMON SERJEANT.—When you were stopt in your account of what passed, you were going to say something. You were asked whether Mr. Church had said any thing to Mr. Patrick which Mr. Patrick related to you. What did he say?—He said, No. He said Mr. Church seemed very much confused. What did you ask Mr. Patrick next?—“Why,” said I, “what do you mean. Why, if you know any thing against the man, did you not charge him with it? I would have been very faithful with him, and charged him with it.” What answer did Mr. Patrick make to that?—He said he did not know; he was not the person.