The Trial and Conviction of John Church: The Preacher of the Surrey Tabernacle, Borough Road, at the Surrey Assizes, at Croydon, on Saturday, the 16th of August, 1817, for an Assault With Intent to Commit an Unnatural Crime. — John Shaqi
The Trial and Conviction of John Church: The Preacher of the Surrey Tabernacle, Borough Road, at the Surrey Assizes, at Croydon, on Saturday, the 16th of August, 1817, for an Assault With Intent to Commit an Unnatural Crime.Anonymous
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The Trial and Conviction of John Church: The Preacher of the Surrey Tabernacle, Borough Road, at the Surrey Assizes, at Croydon, on Saturday, the 16th of August, 1817, for an Assault With Intent to Commit an Unnatural Crime.
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Church, J. (John), approximately 1780-approximately 1825 -- Trials, litigation, etc.; Trials (Sodomy) -- England
By Lord ELLENBOROUGH.—Repeat that in Mr. Patrick’s own words. Attend,
and wait to hear the question. Be so good as to suppose that you were
narrating the conversation as it occurred with Mr. Patrick. Instead of
saying, _He_, say _I_. Attend now.
By the COMMON SERJEANT.—What further did he say? and give his own
words.—He said, “I don’t know: I am not so proper a person as you,” or
words to the same effect. I said to him, “What did he (meaning Church)
say respecting the report?”
What had the report reference to that you spoke of?—The report respecting
this transaction.
What answer did Patrick make to that? What did Patrick say to you when
you put the question, as to what Church had said respecting the report?—I
said to Mr. Patrick, says I, “what did he say respecting the
acknowledging the report”—that is, what did Mr. Church say to Mr. Patrick
about acknowledging the report that had gone abroad respecting him. He
said, “It was false.”
Do you mean that Church said it was false?—I mean that Patrick said that
the report was false.
By Lord ELLENBOROUGH.—That is not the answer to the question put by the
Gentleman. Did Church say that it was false?—I never saw Church upon the
subject.
By the COMMON SERJEANT.—When Patrick made you an answer, did you
understand that answer to be, that Church had said the report was false,
or that Patrick himself said the report was false?—Patrick himself.
Patrick himself said that the report was false?—Certainly.
Did you then put any other question to Mr. Patrick?—I did.
What other question did you put?—I said, what answer did Mr. Church give
respecting its having been reported that he was in liquor—that he made an
excuse that he was in liquor?
What answer did Mr. Patrick give to that?—He said it was false. He said
there had been a great deal of exaggeration.
Did you after this put any question to Mr. Patrick, whether he, Mr.
Patrick, thought that Mr. Church was implicated in the transaction or
not? Did you put any such question to him?
Lord ELLENBOROUGH.—Did you use those words, or words to the same
effect?—No, I did not I put these words to him—“Why,” says I, “you did
nothing! Did Mr. Church acknowledge nothing to you?” “No, Sir,” says
he, “he did not.” Then he said Mr. Church had not mentioned a word about
it.
Did you make any observation to him, or he to you?—I don’t recollect any
thing in particular. I said, says I, “As you can bring nothing against
him, let us pray for him, and if he had the least idea of such a thing;
and as you say you cannot bring any thing home to him, and can’t prove
any thing, that is all we can do. Let us pray that he may not be guilty
of such sin.”
Lord ELLENBOROUGH.—Did you say, pray for him, if he was under any such
temptation?—Yes; pray for him, if was under any such temptation.
THE COMMON SERJEANT.—Did Mr. Patrick after that deliver any opinion to
you whether he thought Church was implicated in the transaction or
not?—No, he did not.
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