The Trial and Conviction of John Church: The Preacher of the Surrey Tabernacle, Borough Road, at the Surrey Assizes, at Croydon, on Saturday, the 16th of August, 1817, for an Assault With Intent to Commit an Unnatural Crime. — John Shaqi
The Trial and Conviction of John Church: The Preacher of the Surrey Tabernacle, Borough Road, at the Surrey Assizes, at Croydon, on Saturday, the 16th of August, 1817, for an Assault With Intent to Commit an Unnatural Crime.Anonymous
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The Trial and Conviction of John Church: The Preacher of the Surrey Tabernacle, Borough Road, at the Surrey Assizes, at Croydon, on Saturday, the 16th of August, 1817, for an Assault With Intent to Commit an Unnatural Crime.
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Church, J. (John), approximately 1780-approximately 1825 -- Trials, litigation, etc.; Trials (Sodomy) -- England
Did you at any other time see him, and hear him say any thing about this
transaction?—No.
Did any thing more pass at this meeting than what you have told us?
No.—Yes, Sir. I ask pardon: I met him in June last, coming over
Waterloo-bridge. I did not at first know him; and he spoke to me, and he
said, “My name is Patrick.” I said, “Mr. Patrick, why what are you doing
with Mr. Church?” “Why,” says I, “I hear you have brought something else
against him: what is that?”
Lord ELLENBOROUGH.—There is no contradiction of Mr. Patrick in this. He
was not asked to this (continuation of the answer). “Why,” says he,
“Sir, I should not have done it, but that Mr. Church has spoken more
disrespectful things respecting Mrs. Patrick.” He said he should not
have done it, but that Mr. Church had said many disrespectful things of
Mrs. Patrick.
_Cross-examined by_ Mr. MARRYATT.
Was it the Sabbath after the 27th of September that you first heard of
this?—I believe it was. It was within two or three days after.
I think we have learnt that upon the Thursday night Mr. Patrick came
home, and that on the Friday morning the boy communicated to him what had
happened. Now on the Saturday, was not this matter currently talked of
about Mr. Church?—No, I believe not.
You mean that you heard of the report two or three days after the thing
happened?—Yes.
You then heard of the report?—Yes.
You told us that you were desirous that Mr. Patrick should call on Mr.
Church?—Yes.
Then he did so, at your desire?—Yes.
Did Mr. Patrick bring the boy to you, and offer to have him brought face
to face with Mr. Church?—I believe he did.
Mr. Patrick said the boy was outside?—Mr. Patrick called at my house in
the course of the morning, and he sent him, and he said the boy was
outside.
Did he wish you to see the boy?—Not particularly, I believe.
For what purpose did he bring the boy?—To go to Mr. Church’s?—I supposed
so.
To go with you or with him, or with both of you to Mr. Church’s?—I was to
go with him, and therefore the boy followed.
Did the boy go with him into Mr. Church’s house?—He staid outside the
door. He walked on the other side of the way, opposite to where I was.
But he waited whilst you waited?—Yes: we both waited outside.
Ready to go in to Mr. Church’s when you were wanted?—Yes: Mr. Patrick was
to go in and hear what Mr. Church had to say; and then we were to go in,
too.
And he took the boy with him, in order that he might be taken in and see
Mr. Church face to face?—He brought the boy with him, and I suppose that
was his intention.
Did you decline introducing the boy to Mr. Church?—I had no particular
acquaintance with Mr. Church?—I was only one of his hearers, and I
thought it would be too great a liberty for me to go to him. Mr. Patrick
wanted me to go in alone to Mr. Church, first.
Did he not invite you to take the boy in with you?—He said nothing about
that; I don’t recollect any thing that he did.
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