_Lord Ellenborough_.—There is no contradiction of Mr. Patrick in this. He was not asked to this (continuation of the answer). “Why,” says he, “Sir, I should not have done it, but, that Mr. Church has spoken more disrespectful things respecting Mrs. Patrick.” He said he should not have done it, but that Mr. Church had said many disrespectful things of Mrs. Patrick. _Cross-examined by Mr. Marryatt_.—Believes it was the Sabbath after the 27th of September that he first heard of this. It was within two or three days after. Heard of the report two or three days after the thing happened. Witness was desirous that Mr. Patrick should call on Mr. Church. He did so, at witness’s desire. Believes Mr. Patrick brought the boy to him, and offered to have him brought face to face with Mr. Church. Mr. Patrick called at witness’s house in the course of the morning, and he sent him, he said the boy was outside. Mr. Patrick did not particularly wish witness to see the boy; believes he brought the boy to go to Mr. Church’s; witness was to go with him, and, therefore, the boy followed. The boy staid outside the door. He walked on the other side of the way, opposite to where witness was. He waited whilst witness waited, they both waited outside ready to go into Mr. Church’s when they were wanted. Mr. Patrick was to go in and hear what Mr. Church had to say; and then they were to go in too. He took the boy with him, in order that he might be taken in and see Mr. Church face to face. Witness supposes that was his intention. Witness had no particular acquaintance with Mr. Church, was only one of his hearers, and thought it would be too great a liberty for him to go to him. Mr. Patrick wanted witness to go in alone to Mr. Church first. Don’t recollect any thing that he did. Don’t know any other reason he had than that for bringing the boy. Don’t know that he said that that was his reason. He said he had the boy there. Witness told Patrick he had no particular interest in the business; had no intimacy with Mr. Church, except hearing him: thought he had no business to be interested in the knowledge of the fact, being only a hearer. Thought, therefore, what his visit would be obtrusive; certainly had no interest in it. Saw no necessity for going in and taking the boy, as he, Church, did not acknowledge himself guilty of any thing bad. Did not examine the boy, it being a delicate subject. If Mr. Church had confessed any thing, witness should have it thought it his duty to take the boy and have them face to face. Mr. Church not having confessed any thing, he would not examine the boy; that was his reason for not examining the boy. If he had confessed any thing witness would have taken the boy to have them face to face; his object was to take the boy and have them face to face, if Mr. Church acknowledged the crime. When Mr. Patrick came out and said that Mr. Church did not acknowledge