WITNESS: I thought I ought to get something near the Cathedral, so as to be near to Jasper. MR. CHESTERTON: They recommended you to Mr. Tope’s? WITNESS: They did. MR. CHESTERTON: And you set out to go there? WITNESS: I did. MR. CHESTERTON: What happened? WITNESS: I was told I should find the house on the right-hand side. It was so obvious that I went past it. I went on up a lane called Crow Lane, I believe, into the Vineries, and somewhere about there I met the boy named Deputy. I asked him to take me to Tope’s, which he did. MR. CHESTERTON: He took you to within sight, didn’t he? WITNESS: Yes; I beg pardon. MR. CHESTERTON: He pointed out a window? WITNESS: Yes. MR. CHESTERTON: You said, “That’s Tope’s”? WITNESS: Yes; I thought it was. MR. CHESTERTON: He said it was Jasper’s? WITNESS: Yes; and I looked at it with some interest. MR. CHESTERTON: You saw Jasper subsequently? WITNESS: Yes. MR. CHESTERTON: You called on him to inquire about the Tope’s? You made that opportunity to call? WITNESS: Yes. MR. CHESTERTON: You walked about the Cathedral; met Sapsea and Durdles? WITNESS: Yes. MR. CHESTERTON: You met Deputy again? WITNESS: Yes. MR. CHESTERTON: And there was a conversation, I think, between you and Deputy, in which you said he was to take you to Durdles’s house when you wished? WITNESS: Yes. MR. CHESTERTON: After you installed yourself in the Tope’s lodgings, how did you propose to keep a record of your successes? WITNESS: I rather amused myself by opening the cupboard door in my room, and chalking it up as is done in taverns which on occasions I have visited in Ceylon—I mean Norfolk. MR. CHESTERTON: You were brought up as a boy in Norfolk? WITNESS: Yes. MR. CHESTERTON: And they keep chalk scores there? WITNESS: They used to chalk it up by means of long or short lines. MR. CHESTERTON: Generally according to the date of the week? WITNESS: The big lines at the end of the week. MR. CHESTERTON: You kept this record in this fashion? WITNESS: Yes. MR. CHESTERTON: Will you carry your mind back to one evening, I think in July, when Jasper came home comparatively late, and went under the archway, and passed up the staircase? WITNESS: Yes. MR. CHESTERTON: Do you remember an old woman following? WITNESS: Yes. MR. CHESTERTON: What passed between you? WITNESS: I asked her if she was looking for anybody, and she, in substance, said that she would like to know the name and address of that gentleman. Then we had some further conversation, and she asked me, first of all for money for her lodgings, and then she asked for money for what she described as opium, which I gave her. MR. CHESTERTON: She also mentioned an interview with a young gentleman on the previous Christmas Eve?