_A._ No, sir, not much of a pivot. They had to take two or three handspikes to round it about. _Q._ It was mounted on a carriage, the same as other guns? _A._ Yes, sir. _Q._ With wheels? _A._ I believe so; I took no notice of the gun. _Q._ Reflect, and tell us how the gun was mounted? _A._ It was mounted so that it could be altered in its position by the aid of handspikes; it could be swung by the use of handspikes. _Q._ The gun could be swung on the carriage without moving the carriage? _A._ I do not know that part of it; I know the men complained that moving the gun was hard work. _Q._ What other arms had you on board? _A._ I saw other arms on board,--pistols, I believe, and cutlasses. _Q._ How many pistols did you see? _A._ I saw several; I do not know how many. _Q._ About how many cutlasses? _A._ I cannot say how many; I saw several, such as they were--cutlasses or knives, such as they were. _Q._ Where were the cutlasses? _A._ Those were in the lockers that I saw; I never saw them until Monday noon, when we ran down the Joseph; I saw them then. _Q._ Where were they then? _A._ I saw them in the lockers that lay in the cabin. _Q._ When the Perry's boat came to you where were they? _A._ Some out on the table, and some in the lockers. _Q._ When you captured the Joseph where were they? _A._ I think there were some out on the table, and about the cabin; the pistols, too; but there were none used. _Q._ Were any of the men armed? _A._ No, sir; I saw none of our men armed, except in their belt they might have a sheath knife. _Q._ Where were all hands when you captured the Joseph, in the forenoon of Monday? _A._ All on deck, sir; there might be one or two in the forecastle, but most on deck, some lying down, and some asleep. _Q._ What size is the Savannah? _A._ I think in the neighborhood of 50 to 60 tons. _Q._ What is the usual crew for sailing such a vessel, for mercantile purposes? _A._ I have been out in such a boat with four men and a boy, besides myself; that was all-sufficient. _Q._ Where did you run to? _A._ I ran to Havana, and to Key West, with the mails, and returned again in a pilot boat of that size, with four men and a boy, some years ago. _Q._ Was the Savannah in use as a pilot boat before that expedition? _A._ Yes; that is what she was used for. _Q._ Do you know where the Savannah was owned? _A._ I believe she was owned in Charleston. _Q._ How long have you known her? _A._ Two or three years, as a pilot boat. _Q._ Do you know her owners? _A._ I know one of them. _Q._ What was his name? _A._ Mr. Lawson. _Q._ Is he a citizen of the United States? _A._ Yes, I believe so. _Cross-examined by Mr. Larocque._