A. Yes. But you must recall that I did not specify that the criminals which were used for malaria experiments were prisoners condemned to death; neither did I specify that if I were to go to a penitentiary to see if I could get volunteers for a nutrition experiment that I should select prisoners condemned to death. Q. If you are speaking here of condemned criminals as experimental subjects, are you speaking of criminals condemned to death or just of criminals who have just received some sentence or other? A. I have not used prisoners or criminals condemned to death. You have been using that statement. I have used prisoners. Q. You spoke only of prisoners then? A. That is correct. Q. Are those prisoners in pre-trial imprisonment who have not yet been put on trial or are those prisoners who have already received some sentence? A. Prisoners who have already received some sentence. Q. In other words, prisoners who have been condemned or sentenced? A. But not necessarily to death. Q. Yes, other sentences, aside from the death sentence, included. Did you as a scientist interest yourself in the question of why a person was sentenced, for what crimes he was sentenced? A. No, I did not. Q. Did you at least concern yourself with the question whether the man was condemned, was sentenced by a regular court or a court martial, or an extraordinary court? A. None of these prisoners would have been sentenced by a court martial; they would have been sentenced by an ordinary civilian court. Q. How do you know? Did you see the personal files of these prisoners or did you see the opinions and sentences on the basis of which the prisoner had been incarcerated? A. Only on the basis of the type of prisoner that would be incarcerated in a certain penitentiary. Q. How do you, as a doctor, know exactly what sort of prisoner is incarcerated in this penitentiary and what sort of prisoner is incarcerated in another prison? How do you know that? A. That’s a matter of common knowledge to one who reads the newspapers, the press, and who is generally informed on such matters. In a Federal penitentiary then you might have prisoners who have been incarcerated because of court martial. Q. Are inmates of Federal penitentiaries used for experiments too, as far as you know? A. Yes. They may be. Q. In other words, political prisoners too, that is, prisoners who were condemned by a court martial or by another court? A. We have no political prisoners in the United States. Q. Are not prisoners condemned for high treason or treason and the like? Those are political crimes. A. Not to my knowledge. Q. For conspiring with the enemy during the war; such cases have not only arisen but they have also been punished, and you must know that from reading your newspaper, Professor; those are political prisoners. Do you not have those in America? A. Not to my knowledge.