Mr. RANKIN. Did you ever show that rifle to the De Mohrenschildts? Mrs. OSWALD. I know that De Mohrenschildts had said that the rifle had been shown to him, but I don't remember that. Mr. RANKIN. Do you recall your husband taking the rifle away from the apartment on Neely Street at any time? Mrs. OSWALD. You must know that the rifle--it isn't as if it was out in the open. He would hang a coat or something to mask its presence in the room. And sometimes when he walked out, when he went out in the evening I didn't know, because I didn't go into that room very often. I don't know whether he took it with him or not. Mr. RANKIN. Did you ever see him clean the rifle? Mrs. OSWALD. Yes. I said before I had never seen it before. But I think you understand. I want to help you, and that is why there is no reason for concealing anything. I will not be charged with anything. Mr. GOPADZE. She says she was not sworn in before. But now inasmuch as she is sworn in, she is going to tell the truth. Mr. RANKIN. Did you see him clean the rifle a number of times? Mrs. OSWALD. Yes. Mr. RANKIN. Could you help us by giving some estimate of the times as you remember it? Mrs. OSWALD. About four times--about four or five times, I think. Mr. RANKIN. Did your husband ever tell you why he was cleaning the--that is, that he had been using it and needed to be cleaned after use? Mrs. OSWALD. No, I did not ask him, because I thought it was quite normal that when you have a rifle you must clean it from time to time. Mr. RANKIN. Did you ever observe your husband taking the rifle away from the apartment on Neely Street? Mrs. OSWALD. Now, I think that he probably did sometimes, but I never did see it. You must understand that sometimes I would be in the kitchen and he would be in his room downstairs, and he would say bye-bye, I will be back soon, and he may have taken it. He probably did. Perhaps he purely waited for an occasion when he could take it away without my seeing it. Mr. RANKIN. Did you ever observe that the rifle had been taken out of the apartment at Neely Street--that is, that it was gone? Mrs. OSWALD. Before the incident with General Walker, I know that Lee was preparing for something. He took photographs of that house and he told me not to enter his room. I didn't know about these photographs, but when I came into the room once in general he tried to make it so that I would spend less time in that room. I noticed that quite accidentally one time when I was cleaning the room he tried to take care of it himself. I asked him what kind of photographs are these, but he didn't say anything to me. Mr. RANKIN. That is the photographs of the Walker house that you were asking about? Mrs. OSWALD. Yes. Later, after he had fired, he told me about it. I didn't know that he intended to do it--that he was planning to do it. Mr. RANKIN. Did you learn at any time that he had been practicing with the rifle?