Mrs. OSWALD. I think that he went once or twice. I didn't actually see him take the rifle, but I knew that he was practicing. Mr. RANKIN. Could you give us a little help on how you knew? Mrs. OSWALD. He told me. And he would mention that in passing--it isn't as if he said, "Well, today I am going"--it wasn't as if he said, "Well, today I am going to take the rifle and go and practice." But he would say, "Well, today I will take the rifle along for practice." Therefore, I don't know whether he took it from the house or whether perhaps he even kept the rifle somewhere outside. There was a little square, sort of a little courtyard where he might have kept it. When you asked me about the rifle, I said that Lee didn't have a rifle, but he also had a gun, a revolver. Mr. RANKIN. Do you recall when he first had the pistol, that you remember? Mrs. OSWALD. He had that on Neely Street, but I think that he acquired the rifle before he acquired the pistol. The pistol I saw twice--once in his room, and the second time when I took these photographs. Mr. RANKIN. What period of time was there between when he got the rifle and you learned of it, and the time that you first learned about the pistol? Mrs. OSWALD. I can't say. Mr. RANKIN. When you testified about his practicing with the rifle, are you describing a period when you were still at Neely Street? Mrs. OSWALD. Yes. Mr. RANKIN. Do you know where he practiced with the rifle? Mrs. OSWALD. I don't know where. I don't know the name of the place where this took place. But I think it was somewhere out of town. It seems to me a place called Lopfield. Mr. RANKIN. Would that be at the airport--Love Field? Mrs. OSWALD. Love Field. Mr. RANKIN. So you think he was practicing out in the open and not at a rifle range? Mrs. OSWALD. Yes. Mr. RANKIN. Do you recall seeing the rifle when the telescopic lens was on it? Mrs. OSWALD. I hadn't paid any attention initially. I know a rifle was a rifle. I didn't know whether or not it had a telescope attached to it. But the first time I remember seeing it was in New Orleans, where I recognized the telescope. But probably the telescope was on before. I simply hadn't paid attention. I hope you understand. When I saw it, I thought that all rifles have that. Mr. RANKIN. Did you make any objection to having the rifle around? Mrs. OSWALD. Of course. Mr. RANKIN. What did he say to that? Mrs. OSWALD. That for a man to have a rifle--since I am a woman, I don't understand him, and I shouldn't bother him. A fine life. Mr. RANKIN. Is that the same rifle that you are referring to that you took the picture of with your husband and when he had the pistol, too? Mrs. OSWALD. Yes. I asked him then why he had dressed himself up like that, with the rifle and the pistol, and I thought that he had gone crazy, and he said he wanted to send that to a newspaper. This was not my business--it was man's business.