Mr. MARTIN. It was right after--these incidents happened rather closely. The letter from the Civil Liberties Union--well, first we received a telephone call from the Civil Liberties Union wanting to see Marina Oswald. Representative FORD. Telephone call from Dallas or New York, or what? Mr. MARTIN. From Richardson, the same person who wrote the letter which you have there. Do you have that? Mr. REDLICH. We do have. We are inventorying many of these documents of which the American Civil Liberties letter is one and we will introduce it at an appropriate time. Mr. MARTIN. Richardson is a suburb of Dallas. This gentleman called, what was his name? Mr. LEECH. I can't remember it. Mr. REDLICH. Would it refresh your recollection if I mentioned the name Olds? Mr. MARTIN. Yes, Greg Olds. He called on the phone and wanted to see Marina Oswald, wanted to make sure she was being properly represented, that she knew her rights, and so on and so forth. John Thorne talked to him, and told him that he represented Marina Oswald, and that he was definitely sure that all her rights were being observed. Then I think there was another phone call from them still wanting to see Marina Oswald, and I talked to Marina and she said well, she would talk to him. So they arranged a meeting with a third party, I can't remember his name, who was a minister of some kind, and then Marina changed her mind and said no, she didn't want to go at all, she didn't want to talk to any of them. So then they wrote the letter. They wrote a letter to her in Russian and sent one to me in English, one to John Thorne in English, and I believe one to the Secret Service and one to the FBI. Mr. LEECH. Do you want to mention about their press releases at this time? Mr. MARTIN. There were a number of press releases at that time also that she was being held incognito and not able to---- Mr. REDLICH. You mean incognito or incommunicado? Mr. MARTIN. Incommunicado. Representative FORD. Press releases by whom? Mr. MARTIN. The Civil Liberties Union, and so they sent this letter to her and she answered it with a two-page letter in Russian. Representative FORD. In Russian? Mr. MARTIN. Yes. Mr. REDLICH. Do you have a copy of that two-page letter? Mr. MARTIN. No. She wrote it, put it in an envelope, put a stamp on it and I mailed it. I didn't open it or look in it in any way. And that seemed to be the end of it, but they still persisted they wanted to see her. Mr. REDLICH. And the reason Marina did not see them was entirely her own volition? Mr. MARTIN. Her own. Mr. DULLES. She never talked to you about what was in the letter? Mr. MARTIN. No, she said she just told them she didn't want to see them. Mr. DULLES. In two pages? Mr. MARTIN. Yes, sir; This was quoted, a portion of the letter was quoted, in the Worker. Representative FORD. I suggest, Mr. Chairman, that we get, if possible, a copy of the original of that letter. Mr. MARTIN. You probably can get it from Greg Olds.