Mr. REDLICH. On the basis of conversations which you had during the course of the testimony of Marina Oswald before this Commission and on the basis of conversations which you have had subsequent to that time, do you have any opinion concerning the truthfulness of the testimony which she presented before this Commission? Mr. MARTIN. No. I think primarily she is truthful, and I think that under oath she would tell the truth. Mr. REDLICH. Are you still Mrs. Oswald's business representative? Mr. MARTIN. According to the contract, yes. According to my contract with her. Mr. REDLICH. Have you received any communication from her which raises questions as to whether you are still her business representative? Mr. MARTIN. Yes. The CHAIRMAN. Are we really concerned with that? Mr. REDLICH. Mr. Chairman, I intend to ask the witness why he was discharged in terms of whether it had anything to do with any business negotiations or anything to do with the testimony of Mrs. Oswald before this Commission. The CHAIRMAN. You can ask him if it has anything to do with her testimony. We are not interested in her business affairs. Mr. REDLICH. I merely wanted to establish the fact of---- The CHAIRMAN. This thing can go on interminably with all this minutia and things that don't bear on what we are here to find out, whatever his business relations are with Mrs. Oswald, it seems to me is his business and not ours. Mr. REDLICH. Did Mrs. Oswald's attempt to terminate the relationship with you relate in any way to her testimony before this Commission? Mr. MARTIN. No. There was no reason given. Mr. REDLICH. Did it relate in any way, in your opinion, to any information which you may have given to anyone else with regard to your knowledge of the facts concerning the assassination of President Kennedy. Mr. MARTIN. No. Mr. REDLICH. Do you know Jack Ruby? Mr. MARTIN. Yes. Mr. REDLICH. Would you tell us about your association with him? Mr. MARTIN. Well, it is a very minor association. I had been working in the Statler Hotel in Dallas as assistant manager for maybe six months before I met him, and met him through some of the other people in the hotel. Mr. DULLES. What year was this? Mr. MARTIN. About 1955. Mr. DULLES. I just want to get the general area. Mr. MARTIN. 1955 or 1956. And as a club manager, I was club manager in Dallas also, and didn't associate with him at all, even on a bilateral communication through the clubs. But it was just a nodding acquaintance, you might say. I knew him by his first name. He knew me by my first name and we spoke when we saw each other and I think I have been in his place twice. Mr. REDLICH. Do you recall the approximate dates of those visits? Mr. MARTIN. Let's see, once in 1962. I had some gentlemen from New Orleans with me. They were visiting Dallas on business at the Inn of the Six Flags, and they wanted to see the Carousel. Mr. DULLES. That is what you mean by his place?