Mr. MARTIN. Yes. So I called Jack Ruby and asked if it would be all right if I brought them down. We stayed approximately an hour and a half. The other time was during the daytime, let's see, as it was then, I had--I was walking in that area and just stopped in to say hello. The club was closed at that time, not closed for business but it was before opening hours. Mr. REDLICH. Those are the only times you have been in Jack Ruby's business establishment? Mr. MARTIN. Yes. Mr. REDLICH. Do you consider yourself a friend of his? Mr. MARTIN. No. An acquaintance. Mr. REDLICH. Have you gone out socially? Mr. MARTIN. No. He came out to the Inn one time with some little gimmick. It is called a Detwist Board. It is quite a piece of plywood about like this with a round plate on the bottom of it, seated in ball bearings and you are supposed to stand on this thing to twist, and came out to ask me to see who to ask at the park to merchandise it, the Six Flags over Texas Amusement Park, and I told him. Now, whether he went over there or not, I don't know. Mr. REDLICH. I understand that you have had a conversation with an aid of General Walker concerning the General Walker incident. Would you tell the Commission about that? Mr. MARTIN. They contacted us---- Mr. REDLICH. Who is "they"? Mr. MARTIN. General Walker's aide, Mr. Moore or Morse, a tall thin gentleman, about 55 or 60, and wanted actually an interview with Marina which we didn't think was necessary. They came out to John Thorne's office and we sat and talked. They were of the opinion--what they were trying to do was find out who else was involved--this was right after the announcement was made in the paper about Lee Oswald shooting at Walker. They were trying to find out who else was involved because General Walker is still in fear of his life. Mr. DULLES. This was some time before the 22d. Mr. MARTIN. No, it was after. Mr. DULLES. After November 22? Mr. MARTIN. Yes, sir. This was after the announcement was made in the paper that---- Mr. DULLES. Oh, yes. Mr. MARTIN. That Lee Oswald had attacked him. Mr. DULLES. The actual attack was in April. This was after the newspaper announcement. Mr. MARTIN. Yes. The CHAIRMAN. After the newspaper announcements that Lee had tried to kill him which was after the assassination? Mr. MARTIN. That is correct. Mr. DULLES. Yes. Mr. MARTIN. And they just wanted verification actually that or to try to get verification as to how many people were involved, and we told them that there was just one person involved. Mr. REDLICH. At the time did you ask Marina about this? Mr. MARTIN. Yes. Mr. REDLICH. And this is what she told you? Mr. MARTIN. Yes. Mr. DULLES. The persons involved in the Walker incident? Mr. MARTIN. Yes. She said that Lee did it alone without any help. There was no one with him.