Mr. MARTIN. No. Mr. REDLICH. When you discussed the General Walker incident with her, did you discuss his ownership of a rifle? Mr. MARTIN. No. The only thing, I think about the only thing I asked her about that was how he got there and how he got back. Mr. REDLICH. What did she say? Mr. MARTIN. She said he walked and took the bus. Mr. REDLICH. And you didn't ask her what weapon he had shot at General Walker with? Mr. MARTIN. No. That was in the newspaper, it was a rifle. And there were many things I didn't ask about because I was previously informed through the news or I thought I was anyway. Mr. REDLICH. You specifically, with regard to the rifle, you are telling this Commission that you had no conversations with Marina Oswald concerning her husband's practice with the rifle either in Dallas or in New Orleans. Mr. MARTIN. Let's see--I think I did discuss with her one time at the rifle range out in Grand Prairie was it, wherever it was, that the owner had seen Lee Harvey Oswald out there with a rifle, and he drove up in a car. Mr. REDLICH. Who is "they"? Mr. MARTIN. The owner of the rifle range. Mr. REDLICH. You say they drove up in a car? Mr. MARTIN. He drove up in a car. Mr. REDLICH. The owner of the rifle range? Mr. MARTIN. No; Lee Harvey Oswald. Mr. REDLICH. Drove to the rifle range in a car? Mr. MARTIN. Yes. And---- Mr. DULLES. Did he drive himself? Mr. MARTIN. Well, this is a report from the rifle range owner who said he had seen Lee Harvey Oswald there on numerous occasions practicing, and that he drove up in a car by himself. He always came by himself, and I did ask her if he could drive and she said no, definitely. Mr. REDLICH. Where did you read this report or where did you hear about it? Mr. MARTIN. It was right after the start there, in the Dallas papers. Mr. REDLICH. This was something you read. This was not a personal conversation you had with the owner of the rifle range? Mr. MARTIN. No, it was a newspaper account. Mr. REDLICH. Were there any other conversations you had with Mrs. Oswald concerning rifle practice? Mr. MARTIN. No. Mr. REDLICH. Did you have any conversations with her concerning Lee Oswald's ability as a rifleman? Mr. MARTIN. No. Mr. REDLICH. Did Mrs. Oswald ever discuss with you the fears that she claims to have had that Lee Oswald would attempt to kill a public figure as a result specifically of the Walker incident? Mr. MARTIN. No, other than when she told me that she told him that if he tried anything similar to the Walker incident she would have him arrested. And she never mentioned to me a particular figure that he would do anything like that. She evidently had it though or she wouldn't have made the threat to him. Mr. REDLICH. Other than the Nixon incident, and the Walker incident, Mrs. Oswald never related to you any other specific incident with regard to the attempt to take the life of anyone? Mr. MARTIN. No.