Representative FORD. Did Mrs. Oswald, Marina, ever indicate to you her feeling toward guns; did she ever indicate any apprehension about having one in the house? Mr. MARTIN. No. Representative FORD. Related to rifles, pistols? Mr. MARTIN. I have a 22 rifle in the house, for instance. Of course, she may never have seen it. But I don't believe the question ever came up at all. Representative FORD. She never indicated to you that she had told Lee Harvey Oswald that she was apprehensive about his use of a gun or his having a gun in the household? Mr. MARTIN. No. Mr. REDLICH. Mr. Martin, I would like to ask you whether Mrs. Oswald ever discussed with you any aspects of the life of Marina Oswald and Lee Harvey Oswald while they were in Russia. Mr. MARTIN. Let's see now--she mentioned one time to both my wife and I that Lee had gone to Moscow, I believe, and an old boy friend called her up and she went out with him while Lee was gone. Mr. REDLICH. Did she indicate to you at that time the purpose of Lee's trip to Moscow? Mr. MARTIN. No. Mr. REDLICH. Did she indicate to you whether she had told Lee about her going out with this old boy friend? Mr. MARTIN. She said she did tell him. Mr. REDLICH. By the way, would you recall when Lee made this trip to Moscow? Mr. MARTIN. No, I don't think she mentioned the date at all. She may have but I don't recall. Mr. REDLICH. Did she indicate in connection with this trip of Lee Oswald to Moscow that she herself subsequently went to Moscow while he was there? Mr. MARTIN. No. I think she said he was gone one day or one night and came back the next day. Mr. REDLICH. So that on the basis of your recollection, if there was a trip in which Lee Oswald went to Moscow and she joined him there this was a different trip from the one you are talking about? Mr. MARTIN. Yes. Mr. REDLICH. Is that right? Mr. MARTIN. Yes. Mr. REDLICH. Just to make sure of this you say to the best of your recollection she said he went there for one day and returned? Mr. MARTIN. Yes. Mr. REDLICH. Can you think of any other aspects of their life in the Soviet Union that Marina discussed with you. Mr. MARTIN. He used to like her aunt. Now, which aunt I don't know. Yes, I do. It is the aunt that is working as a secretary and her husband is on a pension. She has an aunt and an uncle by blood. Now, the aunt's husband is on a pension, and the uncle's--The uncle is a lieutenant colonel in the Soviet Army. Mr. REDLICH. Now, the aunt and uncle that you say she liked very much, is this the aunt and uncle with whom she was living at the time she met Lee Oswald or is this a different aunt and uncle? Mr. MARTIN. That was all very--always confusing to me because she wouldn't call the spouse of the aunt, for instance, her uncle, and I couldn't tell all the time which party she was talking about. Mr. DULLES. These were both relatives to Marina, therefore, they were not married. Mr. MARTIN. Well, no; they were not married to each other.