Mr. WILLIAMS. When we arrived to the first floor, the first thing I noticed was that the policemen had rushed in. I think some firemen came in with a water hose. And then the next thing that happened, these detectives, or maybe FBI--anyway, they stopped us all and they said, "Do you work here?" And we told them yes. And they took our name, address, and they searched everybody. And then the other fellow--I think one fellow asked whether we had been working upstairs. I think we told him yes. They got out all the fellows I think that was working on the sixth floor at the time, and they took us all down to the courthouse, I think, and we had to fill out some affidavits and things. Mr. BALL. You made out an affidavit there? Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Did you go out of the building shortly after you came downstairs? Mr. WILLIAMS. They wouldn't let anybody out of the building. Mr. BALL. How long after you came down from the first floor were you taken over to the Police Department? Mr. WILLIAMS. I couldn't give you the exact time, but it wasn't long. Mr. BALL. You can't give me any estimate in minutes? Mr. WILLIAMS. No, sir; I would not want to say. Mr. DULLES. Did you see Lee Oswald at any time during this period? Mr. WILLIAMS. No, sir; I don't remember seeing him. Mr. BALL. Were the police with you? Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes; they were. Mr. BALL. Were your two friends with you, Jarman and---- Mr. WILLIAMS. No; they wasn't with me. First I think they took me and another fellow, Danny--they took us in one car. Then they took some other fellows in another car, and then another car, I think. Mr. BALL. You were with Danny Arce and one or two police officers? Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Anybody else? Mr. WILLIAMS. That's all. Mr. BALL. Do you know when Norman and Jarman went out? Mr. WILLIAMS. Well, at the time I don't think Norman and Jarman came down right then. They brought Bill Shelley and Bill Lovelady, a fellow by the name of Jack Dougherty, and Charles Givens later on, they brought them right behind us. Mr. BALL. When you left the first floor with the officers, was Norman still there? Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir; he was in the building. Mr. BALL. And was Jarman still there? Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. I would like to offer all of the exhibits that we marked so far into evidence. Mr. DULLES. Could you give me the numbers? Mr. BALL. I think they run 483 to 492, inclusive. Mr. DULLES. Was 481 introduced? Mr. BALL. If 481 and 482 were not, we offer them. 483 is a diagram of the sixth floor. We offer that. Everything this morning from 477 to 492 we offer in evidence. The last number is 492. Mr. DULLES. All exhibits subsequent to the last exhibit noted in the record up to and including 492 will be admitted. (The material heretofore marked Exhibits Nos. 481 through 492, inclusive, previously marked for identification, were received in evidence.) Mr. McCLOY. I have some questions.