Mrs. PAINE. That is right. What arrangement? Mr. JENNER. Affirmatively. You did it yourself? Mrs. PAINE. Oh, yes. Mr. JENNER. We have now reached the summer period of 1963, and covered some of it in part. My recollection of your testimony is that you vacationed in the summer of 1963. Mrs. PAINE. That is right. Mr. JENNER. You visited various members of your family up north? Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Mr. JENNER. You departed Irving, Tex., some time in July, is that correct? Mrs. PAINE. I believe it was the 27th of July. Mr. JENNER. And just tell us whom of your family you visited and where you visited, without telling us what you did. Mrs. PAINE. I visited my mother-in-law and stepfather-in-law. Mr. JENNER. That is Mr. and Mrs. Young, Arthur Young? Mrs. PAINE. That is right. Mr. JENNER. In Paoli, Pa.? Mrs. PAINE. I first went to Naushon Island off the coast of Massachusetts. Mr. JENNER. Were you driving in the station wagon? Mrs. PAINE. Yes; I was. Mr. JENNER. With your children? Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Mr. JENNER. And you went from there to where? Whom did you visit next? Mrs. PAINE. How detailed do you want to be? Mr. JENNER. Just tell us whom you visited is all. Mrs. PAINE. I stopped and saw Miss Mary Forman, in Connecticut, one night. Mr. JENNER. She is an old friend of yours? Mrs. PAINE. She is an old friend of mine from Columbus, Ohio, and went on then to Paoli the next day, and stayed there, again with the Youngs, until the early part of September. Mr. McCLOY. Is that Paoli, Pa.? Mrs. PAINE. That is right. Mr. JENNER. Did you visit your mother and your father or either of them? Mrs. PAINE. My father came to Paoli and visited me there. Mr. JENNER. Did I ask you yesterday, Mrs. Paine, and please forgive me if this is a repetition, the occupation of your father. Mrs. PAINE. He is an insurance underwriter; he composes the fine print. Mr. JENNER. Was he at one time an actuary? Mrs. PAINE. What does actuary mean? Mr. JENNER. A man who computes the probabilities and works in connection with---- Mrs. PAINE. He may be. I am not certain exactly what his position is. Mr. JENNER. For what company, please? Mrs. PAINE. The Nationwide Insurance Company. Mr. JENNER. Where is their main office? Mrs. PAINE. In Columbus, Ohio. Mr. JENNER. Your father visited you at Paoli. Did you see your mother during that summer period? Mrs. PAINE. Yes; I did. I saw her briefly on the way to Naushon Island, and then again I saw her on my way back to the south and west, in Columbus, Ohio. Mr. JENNER. At Columbus, she was living there then? Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Did you see your sister on that trip? Mrs. PAINE. Yes; I did. Mr. JENNER. And where did you see her? Mrs. PAINE. She lives in suburban Washington, and I saw here there at her home. I also saw Michael's brother, and his wife, who live in Baltimore. Mr. JENNER. Would you identify Michael's brother, please? Mrs. PAINE. His name is Cameron Paine, C-a-m-e-r-o-n.