Mr. JENNER. What is his occupation or business? Mrs. PAINE. He works with Social Security. Mr. JENNER. For the State or the United States Government? Mrs. PAINE. For the United States Government. Mr. JENNER. That covers generally the people you visited that summer? Mrs. PAINE. No. I also visited my brother, in Yellow Springs, Ohio. Mr. JENNER. That is your brother, the physician? Mrs. PAINE. That is right. I visited with friends in the Philadelphia area, while I was at Paoli. Mr. JENNER. Do you mean by the term "friends" there to mean in the sense I would mean friends? Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Or members of the Friends Society? Mrs. PAINE. Some were both, but I meant it as personal friends. And then I saw also friends, also both, capital F and small, in Richmond, Ind., and then from there I headed directly south to New Orleans. (Discussion off the record.) Mrs. PAINE. Shall I go on to arrival at New Orleans? Mr. JENNER. This spanned a period of a little over 2 months, did it not? Mrs. PAINE. It was just short of 2 months total that I was away from my home in Irving. Mr. JENNER. And in the meantime you had had the correspondence with Marina that you had related this morning, during the course of your going along, had you? Mrs. PAINE. During that vacation she and I exchanged one letter each. Mr. JENNER. Yes. Had you advised her that you were coming to New Orleans? Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Mr. JENNER. For what purpose? Mrs. PAINE. To visit. And to talk. Mr. JENNER. About what? Mrs. PAINE. To see if it was appropriate for her to come to my house for the birth of the baby. Mr. JENNER. At that moment, at that time, when you were about to return or about to go to New Orleans, this concept was limited to her coming to be with you for the birth of the child? Mrs. PAINE. That is correct. Mr. JENNER. At least temporarily she abandoned the notion of joining you on a semipermanent basis? Mrs. PAINE. It was abandoned. It was not taken up again. Mr. JENNER. You arrived in New Orleans? Mrs. PAINE. That is right. Mr. JENNER. The 20th of September. Mr. McCLOY. Maybe you are going to get to this. Maybe I am anticipating your case, so to speak, but during these visits that you paid to your friends on this trip, did you talk about your association with Marina? Mrs. PAINE. Yes; I did. Mr. McCLOY. You did? Mrs. PAINE. Quite a lot. It was rather an important thing to me. Mr. JENNER. I have some questions to put to Mrs. Paine on that subject, but they are in the area of the collateral that I spoke of this morning, so I did not go into them at the moment. Now, starting with your arrival in New Orleans, you got there in the morning or afternoon? Mrs. PAINE. I arrived midafternoon, as I remember. Mr. JENNER. And you went directly to their home, did you? Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Mr. JENNER. What did you find when you reached the home? Mrs. PAINE. I was expected. They had groceries bought. Mr. JENNER. Who was home?