Warren Commission (04 of 26): Hearings Vol. IV (of 15)United States. Warren Commission
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Warren Commission (04 of 26): Hearings Vol. IV (of 15)
United States. Warren Commission
Kennedy, John F. (John Fitzgerald), 1917-1963 -- Assassination; Oswald, Lee Harvey
Mr. FRITZ. Yes, sir; the people told us as he ran across the yard he
was reloading the gun as he ran across the yard. Yes; the witnesses
told us that.
Mr. McCLOY. If I can take you back a little further also.
Mr. FRITZ. All right, sir.
Mr. McCLOY. Did you see the gun in the position, the rifle I am talking
about now.
Mr. FRITZ. Yes, sir.
Mr. McCLOY. Did you see the rifle in the position in which it was found?
Mr. FRITZ. Yes, sir; I did.
Mr. McCLOY. Where was it found?
Mr. FRITZ. It was found back near the stairway in a little--some boxes
were stacked about this far apart, about that far apart. The rifle
was down on the floor and partially under these boxes back near the
stairway in the corner of the building.
Mr. McCLOY. This was on the sixth floor?
Mr. FRITZ. Sixth floor; yes, sir.
Mr. McCLOY. Nobody had touched it by the time you saw it?
Mr. FRITZ. No, sir; nobody touched it. They called me as soon as they
saw it and I went back there and I saw it.
Mr. McCLOY. Then you say the rifle was then dusted?
Mr. FRITZ. Yes, sir.
Mr. McCLOY. Does that mean the laboratory people had already come there
then?
Mr. FRITZ. He came down from where he had been; he was on the same
floor checking the empty cartridges, and he came back.
Mr. McCLOY. Oh, yes.
Mr. FRITZ. To the back, when I called him, and he came back there and
checked the rifle; yes, sir.
Mr. McCLOY. When you went up to the sixth floor from which Oswald
apparently had fired these shots, what did it look like there, what was
the--how were things arranged there? Was there anything in the nature
of a gun rest there or anything that could be used as a gun rest?
Mr. FRITZ. You mean up in the corner where he shot from, from the
window?
Mr. McCLOY. Yes.
Mr. FRITZ. Yes, sir; there were some boxes stacked there and I believe
one box, one small box I believe was in the window, and another box was
on the floor. There were some boxes stacked to his right that more or
less blinded him from the rest of the floor. If anyone else had been on
the floor I doubt if they could have seen where he was sitting.
Mr. McCLOY. Did you see anything other----
Mr. FRITZ. Lieutenant Day, of course, made a detailed description of
all of that and he can give it to you much better than I can.
Mr. McCLOY. He is going to be here?
Mr. FRITZ. Yes, sir; and he will give it to you in detail; yes, sir.
Mr. DULLES. When was the paper bag covering that apparently he brought
the rifle in, was that discovered in the sixth floor about the same
time?
Mr. FRITZ. No, sir; that was recovered a little later. I wasn't down
there when that was found.
Mr. DULLES. It was recovered on the sixth floor, was it not?
Mr. FRITZ. Yes, sir; I believe so. We can check here and see. I believe
it was. But I wasn't there when that was recovered.
Mr. BALL. Here is a picture of Commission Exhibit 514.
Mr. FRITZ. That is the--do I have it turned around?
Mr. BALL. Do you recognize it?
Mr. FRITZ. That is it.
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