Mr. SPECTER. I now hand you Commission Exhibit No. 852, which is a photograph, and ask you to testify as to what that depicts, please? Dr. OLIVIER. This is a photograph taken from the same X-ray again showing the comminuted fracture of the eighth left rib. Mr. SPECTER. And is that a photograph then of the X-ray designated Commission Exhibit 851? Dr. OLIVIER. Yes; it is. Mr. SPECTER. Did you have an opportunity to observe personally the X-rays showing the wound on Governor Connally's rib? Dr. OLIVIER. Yes; I did. Mr. SPECTER. And how do those X-rays compare with the wound inflicted as depicted in Exhibits 851 and 852? Dr. OLIVIER. They are very similar. Mr. SPECTER. When the wounds were inflicted, as depicted in 851 and 852, what weapon was used? Dr. OLIVIER. This was again the 6.5 millimeter Mannlicher-Carcano rifle. Mr. SPECTER. And what bullets were used? Dr. OLIVIER. The 6.5 millimeter Western ammunition lot 6,000. Mr. SPECTER. And what distance was utilized? Dr. OLIVIER. On the goat the distance was 70 yards. Mr. SPECTER. And was there any covering over the goat? Dr. OLIVIER. Yes. There was a suit, shirt, and undershirt. Mr. SPECTER. What was the entrance velocity of the bullet? Dr. OLIVIER. Striking velocity for an average of 11 shots was 1,929 feet per second. Mr. SPECTER. And what was the exit velocity? Dr. OLIVIER. The exit velocity was 1,664 feet per second. Mr. SPECTER. I now hand you a box containing a bullet, which has been marked as Commission Exhibit No. 853, and ask you if you have ever seen that bullet before? Dr. OLIVIER. Yes; I have. Mr. SPECTER. And under what circumstances have you previously seen that bullet? Dr. OLIVIER. This was the bullet that was fired through the goat. It went through the velocity screens into some cotton waste, dropped out of the bottom of that and was lying on the floor. It was picked up immediately afterwards still warm, so we knew it was the bullet that had fired that particular shot. Mr. SPECTER. Was that fired through the goat depicted in the photographs and X-ray, 851 and 852? Dr. OLIVIER. Yes; that was the goat. Mr. SPECTER. Would you describe for the record, verbally please, the characteristics of that bullet? Dr. OLIVIER. The bullet has been quite flattened. The lead core is extruding somewhat from the rear. We weighed the bullet. It weighs 158.8 grains. Mr. SPECTER. I now hand you Commission Exhibit 399, which has been heretofore in Commission proceedings identified as the bullet found on the stretcher of Governor Connally, and ask if you have had an opportunity to compare 399 with 853? Dr. OLIVIER. Yes; I have. Mr. SPECTER. And what did you find on that comparison? Dr. OLIVIER. The bullet recovered on the stretcher has not been flattened as much, but there is a suggestion of flattening there from a somewhat similar occurrence. Also, the lead core has extruded from the rear in the same fashion, and it appears that some of it has even broken from the rear.