Mr. CARROLL. Actually, I quit high school in 1947 and went to work at Vitalic Battery Co. [spelling] V-i-t-a-l-i-c. I worked there off and on, sometimes I believe during the seasonal layoffs and I would go back when they started rehiring, and I worked there until I went on active duty with the Marine Corps March 1, 1952, and I was released from active duty in May of 1953, and when I returned to Dallas I went to work for James A. Lewis Engineering Co., and I worked for them for approximately 18 months and then I worked 2 months for the Texas Highway Department on a survey crew, and then I joined the Dallas Police Department. Since I have been in the Dallas Police Department, I have worked the radio and patrol divisions, the accident prevention bureau and the special service bureau. While assigned to the special service bureau, I worked with the narcotics section, the criminal intelligence section and the vice section and the administrative section. Mr. BALL. On November 22, 1963, were you on duty? Mr. CARROLL. Yes, sir; I was. Mr. BALL. What were your hours of work that day? Mr. CARROLL. We were instructed to be in the assembly room at 10 a.m. for briefing prior to the arrival of President Kennedy, and at that time I was in the assembly room at 8 a.m. Mr. BALL. What job was assigned to you that day? Mr. CARROLL. I was assigned to the 700 block of Main Street. Mr. BALL. Along the curb--did you stand along the sidewalk? Mr. CARROLL. Yes, sir; to be there, and, of course, there were uniform officers also assigned in that block, but I think they had one detective for each block. Mr. BALL. How far is 700 Main Street from Houston and Main? Mr. CARROLL. That would be roughly about three blocks--three or four blocks, maybe. Mr. BALL. Did you hear the sound of any shots? Mr. CARROLL. No, sir; I did not. Mr. BALL. When did you first hear that the President had been shot? Mr. CARROLL. I had walked around to a tavern around the corner. I was walking down the street and I passed this person I know and I stepped in this tavern to speak to him and I heard it--they turned on the TV just as I walked in the door and I heard it on the TV set. Mr. BALL. What did you do then? Mr. CARROLL. I left and went to the office, and when I got to the office I called the dispatcher and they told me to go to the scene and I left the office and went to the garage, which is two blocks from city hall and got a car and reported to the School Book Depository. Mr. BALL. About what time did you get to the School Book Depository?