Mr. CARROLL. Some. He stated that he had not done anything that--he said, "Well, I was carrying a pistol, but that is all." Mr. BELIN. Was he ever asked his name? Mr. CARROLL. Yes, sir; he was asked his name. Mr. BELIN. Did he give his name? Mr. CARROLL. He gave, the best I recall, I wasn't able to look closely, but the best I recall, he gave two names, I think. I don't recall what the other one was. Mr. BELIN. Did he give two names? Or did someone in the car read from the identification? Mr. CARROLL. Someone in the car may have read from the identification. I know two names, the best I recall, were mentioned. Mr. BELIN. Were any addresses mentioned? Mr. CARROLL. Not that I recall; no, sir. Mr. BELIN. Did you talk at any time to Oswald in the car? Mr. CARROLL. No, sir; I had no conversation with him personally. Mr. BELIN. You were driving the car? Mr. CARROLL. Yes. If I looked at him, I would have to turn around. Mr. BELIN. Did you talk to him after you got downtown to the station? Mr. CARROLL. No, sir. Mr. BELIN. Did you hear him say anything after he got downtown to the station? Mr. CARROLL. No; I didn't hear him say anything. Mr. BELIN. Did you ever hear anyone say anything about his having an address on North Beckley or on Beckley Street? Mr. CARROLL. I heard later, but I couldn't say who it was that said it. Mr. BELIN. When you say later, you mean later than what? Mr. CARROLL. Later that day. Mr. BELIN. Was this after you relinquished custody of Oswald? Mr. CARROLL. Yes. Mr. BELIN. Up to that time had you heard it? Mr. CARROLL. I don't recall hearing it prior to the time I was in the city hall. Mr. BELIN. Anything else you can think of, whether we have discussed this or not, that in any way might be relevant? Mr. CARROLL. No, sir; because when we brought him out of the car, we took him straight up to the homicide and robbery office and there left him in custody of a homicide and robbery officer. Mr. BELIN. When this gun, Commission Exhibit 143, was taken by you and then subsequently given to Hill, did you at any time notice whether it was or was not loaded? Mr. CARROLL. I observed Sergeant Hill unload the gun. Mr. BELIN. How many bullets were in it? Mr. CARROLL. It was full. I believe there was six bullets, the best I recall. Mr. BELIN. All right, sir; we thank you again for making the second trip down, and we are sorry we didn't have the exhibit here when you first testified. You have an opportunity, if you like, to read your deposition and sign it before it goes to Washington, or you can waive. Mr. CARROLL. I will sign it. Mr. BELIN. All right, you will be contacted. Mr. CARROLL. All right, fine. TESTIMONY OF THOMAS ALEXANDER HUTSON The testimony of Thomas Alexander Hutson was taken at 9 a.m., on April 3, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. David W. Belin, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.