Mr. CARROLL. It was on a Friday, last, I believe. I don't know what day that would be. Mr. BELIN. Well, today is the following Thursday. At that time we didn't have some of the exhibits here, Officer Carroll, and since then they have come in. I now want to hand you one of the exhibits which has been marked as Commission Exhibit 143 and ask you to state what that is? Mr. CARROLL. Yes, sir. It is a .38 caliber revolver with a blue steel 2" barrel with wooden handle. Mr. BELIN. Have you ever seen this before? Mr. CARROLL. Yes; I have. Mr. BELIN. Where did you first see it? Mr. CARROLL. I first saw it in the Texas Theatre on November 22, 1963. Mr. BELIN. Would you just tell us about this weapon, when you first saw it? Mr. CARROLL. The first time I saw the weapon, it was pointed in my direction, and I reached and grabbed it and stuck it into my belt. Mr. BELIN. What did you happen to be doing at the time? Mr. CARROLL. At the time, I was assisting in the arrest of Lee Harvey Oswald. Mr. BELIN. Do you know whose hand was on the gun when you saw it pointed in your direction? Mr. CARROLL. No; I do not. Mr. BELIN. You just jumped and grabbed it? Mr. CARROLL. I jumped and grabbed the gun; yes, sir. Mr. BELIN. Then what did you do with it? Mr. CARROLL. Stuck it in my belt. Mr. BELIN. And then? Mr. CARROLL. After leaving the theatre and getting into the car, I released the pistol to Sgt. Jerry Hill. Mr. BELIN. Sgt. G. L. Hill? Mr. CARROLL. Yes, sir. Mr. BELIN. Who drove the car down to the station? Mr. CARROLL. I drove the car. Mr. BELIN. Did you give it to him before you started up the car, or after you started up the car, if you remember? Mr. CARROLL. After. Mr. BELIN. How far had you driven when you gave it to him? Mr. CARROLL. I don't recall exactly how far I had driven. Mr. BELIN. Did you put any identification mark at all on this weapon? Mr. CARROLL. Yes, sir; I did. The initials B. C., right above the screw on the inside of the butt of the pistol. Mr. BELIN. That is about an inch or so from the bottom of the pistol? Mr. CARROLL. Approximately an inch from the bottom of the butt of the pistol. Mr. BELIN. As you hold the pistol pointing, that metal strip is pointing up also, is that correct? Mr. CARROLL. That's correct. Mr. BELIN. Where did you put the initials? Mr. CARROLL. Where was I, or where did I put the initials on the pistol? Mr. BELIN. Where were you? Mr. CARROLL. I was in the personnel office of the city of Dallas police department. Mr. BELIN. With Sergeant Hill? Mr. CARROLL. Yes, and others who were present. Mr. BELIN. Did you see Sergeant Hill take it out of his pocket or wherever he had it, or not? Mr. CARROLL. Yes, sir. Mr. BELIN. What day did you put your initials on it? Mr. CARROLL. November 22, 1963. Mr. BELIN. During the drive down from the Texas Theatre, to the police station, do you remember any conversation with Lee Harvey Oswald?