Mr. JENNER. Do you remember making a statement to the FBI that in your opinion Oswald was bitter since his father died when he was very young, and that he thought that he had had a raw deal out of life? Mr. VOEBEL. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Do you remember that statement? Mr. VOEBEL. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Do you still carry that opinion, and hold it? Mr. VOEBEL. Like I say now, I think this opinion was formed later. Mr. JENNER. And you don't think you had those impressions then? Mr. VOEBEL. No; I didn't; not back in those days. I formed that later. Mr. JENNER. What was that embitterment directed toward? Mr. VOEBEL. Toward authority, I would say. He didn't like authority. Mr. JENNER. You noticed that at that time, did you? Mr. VOEBEL. I think so. He didn't seem to like to be told what to do, or made to do something. Mr. JENNER. Is there a Civil Air Patrol unit here? Mr. VOEBEL. Yes; I think they have two. Mr. JENNER. Two? Mr. VOEBEL. Yes, sir. Mr. JENNER. Were there two here at that time? Mr. VOEBEL. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Did you and Lee have any interest in the Civil Air Patrol? Mr. VOEBEL. Yes; I think I got him interested in it. We got to talking about it and I told him as much as I knew about it, and I think he attended maybe one or two meetings, and I think he even subsequently bought a uniform, and he attended at least one meeting that I remember, in that uniform, but after that he didn't show up again. Mr. JENNER. He just attended two meetings of the CAP? Mr. VOEBEL. Two or three meetings, I would say. Mr. JENNER. And that's all he attended? Mr. VOEBEL. Yes. He lost interest after that, I think. Mr. JENNER. Who was the majordomo of the CAP unit that you attended? Mr. VOEBEL. I think it was Captain Ferrie. I think he was there when Lee attended one of these meetings, but I'm not sure of that. Now that I think of it, I don't think Captain Ferrie was there at that time, but he might have been. That isn't too clear to me. Mr. JENNER. Lee did buy a uniform to attend these CAP meetings and join the unit? Mr. VOEBEL. Yes; he bought a uniform and everything, and he seemed to be very interested at the outset. He even got a paper route, I think it was, or something, to get enough money together to buy the uniform; he was that interested, and that's why I thought it strange when he didn't attend any more meetings. Mr. JENNER. You thought that was strange? Mr. VOEBEL. Yes. After all this happened, and, of course, this is my opinion now, I guess--not then, but I think now maybe he liked the uniform to wear more than he did like going to the school, with those classes that we had. Mr. JENNER. You had classes at these meetings of the CAP unit? Mr. VOEBEL. Oh, yes; we had classes, and maybe that was the thing that Lee didn't care for, because after those couple of meetings he just didn't show up any more. Mr. JENNER. Did these classes at the CAP unit that you attended require some study? Mr. VOEBEL. Yes; they did.