Mr. JENNER. Did Lee ever talk to you about himself and his history, of his earlier life? Mr. VOEBEL. His "history"? Mr. JENNER. Yes; his background--anything about his family before he ever met you? Mr. VOEBEL. Well, he mentioned the fact about his father dying, but he didn't talk about much else; I mean about when he was younger, or anything like that. Maybe he might have mentioned about coming here from Texas, and things like that, you know, at different times, but I don't recall all of that now. I got the impression somewhere that he wasn't born here, and I got the impression that he was from Texas at that time, but, of course, that wasn't correct, as I learned after all this happened. But, I mean, we didn't sit around talking about things like that. We were more interested, I guess, in things at school and things that were going around, more up to date, I guess you would say. Mr. JENNER. Did he talk to you at all about his life in Texas, or to anyone in your presence, that you recall? Mr. VOEBEL. No. I mean, he might have mentioned it at different times, just as a passing remark, or something. You know how that is, but if he did it has just slipped my mind, because it wasn't anything that would impress me so that I would remember it. Mr. JENNER. Did you attend these CAP meetings once a week or twice a week, or how often? Mr. VOEBEL. Twice a week, and now that I think of it, Lee might have actually attended two or three meetings. It seems like he maybe attended two or three of them, but anyway he quit then, all of a sudden. He just quit coming, so I figured he had lost interest in the whole thing. Mr. JENNER. Do you have any idea what made him quit attending those classes? Mr. VOEBEL. Well, as I remember, we were having classes then on the weather, and that can be a drab subject, although it is essential, but maybe that's why he quit coming; I don't know. Mr. JENNER. Was this CAP unit coeducational? Mr. VOEBEL. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Because sometimes that can stimulate your interest too, isn't that right? Mr. VOEBEL. Well, to tell you the truth, no. I had no girl friend out there at that time. I had a girl at the school, but that was it. Mr. JENNER. But there were girls out at this unit, attending these classes? Mr. VOEBEL. Yes; but they were kept pretty well separated from us. They might have been in the classes, but the girls out there didn't interest me. Mr. JENNER. Did they interest Lee? Mr. VOEBEL. No; I don't think so. He wasn't very interested in girls. Mr. JENNER. He was not? Mr. VOEBEL. No. At least it didn't impress me that he was. He didn't show any inclination toward girls at all, that I could see. Mr. JENNER. Did he have any sex deviation of any kind? Mr. VOEBEL. None whatever. Mr. JENNER. From your experience, he seemed to be perfectly normal in that respect? Mr. VOEBEL. Yes. Mr. JENNER. He might have been interested in girls, but he just wasn't pushing it at that time if he was, is that about it?