Mr. LIEBELER. Now can you remember anything else about the second meeting with Lee Oswald that you haven't already told us? Mr. WULF. Not specifically. All I can repeat is that we discussed communism in general and that Oswald showed himself to be a self-made Communist. I don't think anybody got to him, if you want to put it that way. He just learned it on his own. At that time I knew very little about communism, and he was just--actually militant on the idea, and I can repeat he expressed his belief that he could be a good Communist, he could help the Communist Party out, if he could find the Communist Party to join it, and at that time he expressed that he couldn't and---- Mr. LIEBELER. Did he indicate in any way that he had actually tried to find a Communist organization? Mr. WULF. Definitely. That is one thing that made me associate the name Oswald with this particular person, that he definitely was looking for a Communist Party to join and he was very disgusted because he couldn't---- Mr. LIEBELER. Couldn't find one? Mr. WULF. Right. Mr. LIEBELER. Do you know whether Oswald ever discussed matters such as this with McBride? Mr. WULF. Now this would be hearsay. Yes; I believe he had. McBride and I had discussed Oswald a few times between the second visit when we threw him out of the house or asked him to leave and his subsequent leaving for Dallas. I continually tried to get McBride to stop associating with Oswald, and he did actually, as far as I know, except for, you know, working hours. Mr. LIEBELER. And McBride told you that Oswald had also discussed communism with him? Mr. WULF. Oh, yes, yes; that he discussed it constantly when they were on the job and, you know, delivering dentures, and in their social association. It might be of importance to point out that both boys struck me as lonely boys. McBride was working at that time, he had quit school and was working and going to a correspondence school, and I think they tended to associate because of that reason, because they were just plain lonely, not knowing too many people. Mr. LIEBELER. This was true, in your opinion, both of Oswald and McBride? Is that correct?