Mrs. GRAVITIS. Because she married an American. I understood that this was the reason why she was expelled. And I asked how did they allow you to leave the Soviet Union. When you are expelled, they considered them as enemies of the people, and they don't give them permission even to work, a working permit. And they don't give those people also the free education or scholarship. Mr. BELIN. When you are expelled from the Communist movement, does this affect whether or not you get out of the country? Mrs. GRAVITIS. I don't know. I think it wouldn't help. Mr. BELIN. Did Marina Oswald say anything else about her husband? Mrs. GRAVITIS. No. Mr. BELIN. Did she say much about the people that she knew here in Dallas, Tex.? Mrs. GRAVITIS. She said that many Russians helped her and Americans here in this vicinity helped her. She said that she wouldn't like to meet with the Russians any more. Mr. BELIN. Why not? Mrs. GRAVITIS. Because Russians are asking too many questions. I feel that because she got tired of being questioned all the time. Mr. BELIN. Did Marina Oswald say whether or not she would take any work here? Mr. MAMANTOV. They haven't talked on this particular subject. However, mother's interpretation is that she couldn't work because she has a small child. She talked only about her husband who didn't have work and they didn't have an automobile. Mr. BELIN. Didn't have an automobile? Mrs. GRAVITIS. That's correct. Mr. BELIN. Did her husband know how to drive? Mrs. GRAVITIS. I don't know. Mr. BELIN. Did she say anything about her husband as a photographer? Mrs. GRAVITIS. Yes; he would like to obtain a job as a photographer. And I understood that he was in Oak Cliff a photographer, and when he went to New Orleans, he continued to look for a job as a photographer. Mr. BELIN. Did Marina Oswald say anything about what her husband did or had done in Russia and where he had gone? Mrs. GRAVITIS. No; only that he was in Minsk and then Leningrad so much. I didn't ask her any more questions. Mr. BELIN. Could he travel in Russia? Mrs. GRAVITIS. I don't know. Mr. BELIN. What kind of living accommodations did Lee Harvey Oswald have in Russia? A house, or an apartment, or what? Mrs. GRAVITIS. She said that in Leningrad they had a room, and she volunteered to say that the room was better than the Russian people locally would have. Mr. BELIN. Why was this? Mrs. GRAVITIS. Was because her husband was an American. Mr. BELIN. Was it just that he was an American? Did she say, or was it because he was in this so-called third stage of the--of becoming a member of the Communist Party? Mrs. GRAVITIS. I don't know. Mr. BELIN. Did she say anything about whether or not the husband, Lee Harvey Oswald, had a gun in Russia or whether he went hunting there? Mrs. GRAVITIS. No. Mr. BELIN. She didn't say anything?