Mr. GLOVER. That's right. Mr. JENNER. Did you detect that that was an active and not merely a passive effort on their part? Mr. GLOVER. Yes; I felt it was an active thing. Mr. JENNER. They were pursuing it with some vigor? Mr. GLOVER. Yes; I would say so. Mr. JENNER. Let's take George in particular. Was it characteristic of him? Was he a generous man and wanted to help others? Mr. GLOVER. Much less so, I would say, than Mrs. De Mohrenschildt. I rather would attribute it to her. Maybe it is my male bias coming out, blaming it on Jeanne for being so interested in somebody else, but he went along with this too, and there were several other people I met there who they were trying to be good to. I think they were trying to do this to help. And shortly after my former wife left and I was by myself, I think they, in their relation to me, were trying to do something to help me out. Mr. JENNER. You met her on this occasion. How many additional occasions were there? Mr. GLOVER. I can't be sure of the number of occasions, because she came several times to the De Mohrenschildt house. Mr. JENNER. Alone? Mr. GLOVER. Yes; she came several times alone, and I would say two or three times I saw her there. Mr. JENNER. And each occasion you saw her on these two or three or even more occasions, she was always alone in the sense that she was not accompanied on any of those occasions by Lee Oswald? Mr. GLOVER. That's correct. Mr. JENNER. Is that correct? Mr. GLOVER. That's correct. Mr. JENNER. What was the length of this visit that you had on the first occasion? Mr. GLOVER. I am not really sure of the time, but the impression I had, it was in the evening, and again I am not sure which one of the times, but the impression I had, it was in the evening that I was over there, either to eat, and she left quite early in the evening. Well, we took, maybe, or she was taken by them, but one time she left around 9 o'clock or something like this, to get a bus to Fort Worth. Whether this was the first time, I really can't be sure. Mr. JENNER. Was it your impression she and her husband were living together at that time? Mr. GLOVER. Yes; it was my impression. I am not really sure now whether anything was said to the contrary on that or not. My impression was that she was living with her husband on this first occasion, yes. Mr. JENNER. Did any occasion arise when you were advised or had the impression that she was not then at that period of time living with her husband? Mr. GLOVER. Yes; I think this is subsequent to this first time I met her. Whatever those occasions were, they had arranged for her to stay with someone here in the Dallas area. Mr. JENNER. Do you know the name? Mr. GLOVER. I do not remember the name of the people, but they had arranged for her to stay here, and she had stayed for, as I recall, a fairly short time, that the arrangement did not work out. Mr. JENNER. Does the name Elena Hall trigger your recollection? Mr. GLOVER. Elena Hall?