Mr. JENNER. H-a-l-l? Mr. GLOVER. I don't recall ever having heard that name. Mr. JENNER. Meller, M-e-l-l-e-r? Mr. GLOVER. I couldn't be very sure about that. They might have mentioned a name, but I do not recall. They mentioned the names of quite a number of people to me, and I am not sure. Mr. JENNER. What impression did you have of Marina on this first occasion? Mr. GLOVER. Well, my first impression was she was sort of an innocent person caught up in the situation. Although I have very little to go on, and I could not communicate with her, only through the De Mohrenschildts. Mr. JENNER. Did she speak any English on that occasion? Mr. GLOVER. She spoke practically none. No English. She understood a little bit that people said in English. Mr. JENNER. But she did not speak it? Mr. GLOVER. She couldn't speak English. It was very difficult for me to get any real good impression from her. Mr. JENNER. And she was quite young? Mr. GLOVER. Yes; she was quite young. Mr. JENNER. Let's say this is February of 1963, did you say that was, or March? Mr. GLOVER. This was sometime in the first part of the year. Mr. JENNER. Of 1963? Mr. GLOVER. Yes; it was probably in January. That would be my best recollection. It was during that time. It might have been later than that. I am hazy. The only thing I have to go by is, I learned later after discussion of the visit of Oswald and his wife to our house, I learned pretty much from the conversation that that meeting took place in the latter part of February. Now I did not recall, I just talked with the other people who lived in the house, and we figured it must have been about that time. And other people present recalled this, so this is how I figured the whole business. And I know I met Marina previous to that time. I know I was away for a week in February when I went on a business trip to Pennsylvania, and so I assume it was somewhere in January, but I really do not remember. Again, if I had to recall those events, I might be able to. I can remember some of the events, but I am not very sure about it. Mr. JENNER. When next did you meet Marina after this occasion? Mr. GLOVER. Well, again, I am not sure at all about those occasions. She would come and stay at the house, and if I came in from playing tennis with George, she might have been there. This may have happened two or three times. Mr. JENNER. There came an occasion, did there not, in which you met Lee Oswald? Mr. GLOVER. Yes; when I met Lee Oswald the first time, was at their house. Mr. JENNER. Did Marina accompany the De Mohrenschildts on that occasion? Mr. GLOVER. That's right. Mr. JENNER. When was that and how did that arise, and what was the circumstance? Mr. GLOVER. The only thing I can remember about this, is again to fix this with respect to the other meeting when he and his wife, Oswald and his wife, came to my house, and that was apparently in late February, so it must have been previous to that.