Mrs. GIBSON. Yes. Mr. JENNER. You have already mentioned that you saw Lee Harvey Oswald when you returned from Arizona? Mrs. GIBSON. I am not sure if it was then or if it was right before I left. Mr. JENNER. Before you left for what? Mrs. GIBSON. Arizona. Mr. JENNER. And where did you see him? Mrs. GIBSON. At the apartment. He came by to pick up a manuscript that I had of his. Mr. JENNER. That is at your apartment? Mrs. GIBSON. Yes. Mr. JENNER. I show you a document that is in evidence in this proceeding as Commission Exhibit No. 95. Would you examine that and tell me whether that is the manuscript to which you have made reference several times. Mrs. GIBSON. I believe it is. Yes; it is. Mr. JENNER. Tell me the circumstances under which you first saw that document and how it came into your possession? Mrs. GIBSON. I asked Lee if he had written anything on Russia that I could read, if he had any material, and he said yes, he did; that he had a manuscript that he had written on general life in Russia and I asked him if I could read it and he said yes and he gave it to me. He brought it over one evening. I have no idea of the date or the time. Mr. JENNER. Was it reasonably early in the course of your acquaintance with the Oswalds? Mrs. GIBSON. I think it was before they moved to Dallas, to Oak Cliff. Mr. JENNER. Did you ever discuss the manuscript with him? Mrs. GIBSON. Yes; I did. I told him he should publish it and he said no, that it was not for people to read. Mr. JENNER. Did you ever discuss its contents with him? Mrs. GIBSON. Yes; a little bit. I asked him questions about it. Mr. JENNER. Can you recall any of the inquiries you made of the discussions you had with him regarding the substance of it? Mrs. GIBSON. Well, I asked him, I believe on this manuscript that it was said that you could not move from town to town. Mr. JENNER. In Russia? Mrs. GIBSON. Yes; and he was telling me why. Mr. JENNER. What did he say? Mrs. GIBSON. He said that the housing problem was so difficult there that once you got an apartment or a room in one city, that you had to wait in line in another city to get housing, therefore, you were not allowed to leave from one city to another unless you already had housing and a job. But for him it was easier because he was an American, and I guess as he said they were trying to impress him a little bit. Mr. JENNER. In that connection did he imply that he was free to move about the country as he saw fit? Mrs. GIBSON. Freer than Russians I would imagine. He did imply that he was freer than they were. Mr. JENNER. To move around? Mrs. GIBSON. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Did he say that he had at any time left Minsk to go anywhere else? Mrs. GIBSON. I believe he had been to Moscow. Mr. JENNER. Was that in connection with his efforts to return to this country? Mrs. GIBSON. I have no idea. I think it was just to see the countryside.