Mr. PIC. I didn't believe it. I mean my wife told me it was him, and I think I stayed awake until the 10 o'clock news to hear it and they mentioned it, and that was it, and so the next day it was in the paper and that is when I reported to the OSI. Mr. JENNER. What is OSI? Mr. PIC. Office of Special Investigator, I believe, for the Air Force. Mr. JENNER. Well, after the rebroadcasts and you became convinced it was your brother what was your reaction? Mr. PIC. It was hard to believe. It was just something you never expect. Mr. JENNER. Had he done or said anything during all your life together which served to lead you to think, well maybe it is so that he has? Mr. PIC. Well, sir, ever since he was born and I was old enough to remember, I always had a feeling that some great tragedy was going to strike Lee in some way or another, and when this happened I figured this was it. In fact, on the very day of the assassination I was thinking about it when I was getting ready to go to work, and just, I was thinking about him at that time and I figured well, when he defected and came back--that was his big tragedy. I found out it wasn't. Mr. JENNER. Would you give me--elaborate on that. Why did you have a feeling for some time that someday he would have, would suffer a great tragedy? Mr. PIC. I don't know. It was just one of those things I can't explain. I always had this feeling about him. Not as a kid, of course, but in my young adulthood I thought that about him, especially after the incident in New York. I thought this way. I had this feeling. Mr. JENNER. You had a feeling at any time that he was groping for a position or station in life, that he realized was beyond his attainment, or any resentment on his part of his station in life? Mr. PIC. I think he resented the fact that he never really had a father, especially after he lost Mr. Ekdahl and his one and only chance to get what he was looking for. Maybe that is why he looked to Robert and I like he did. Mr. JENNER. Did you see Marilyn Murret again? Mr. PIC. Yes, sir; she and I never discussed this. Those were the orders of OSI, not to discuss it with anyone. I made them aware of her, her presence in Japan. I don't know if they ever contacted her or not, sir. I told them about her mentioning this to me that she knew he was in Europe. How she knew, I don't know, sir. And everything I have read states that no one knew he was going. Mr. JENNER. But she was in your home? Mr. PIC. Yes, sir. Mr. JENNER. The very day that the announcement was made? Mr. PIC. Yes, sir. Mr. JENNER. That Lee had defected to Russia? Mr. PIC. Yes, sir; and the radio wasn't on or anything. I had the hi-fi, she liked classical music, and I was playing some of my records for her, and at no time during the day did we have any radio broadcasts. She came about noon. Maybe it was on prior to this, I don't think so, because at 9 o'clock----