Mr. PIC. Well, Marina and the two wives helped prepare the meal, set the table, and we ate, and there was family talk. At no time did we mention our mother. She wasn't present. In fact--I will take that statement back. Some time during our stay there Vada mentioned that she had seen my mother driving around with a man and she thought she had remarried. This may have been that day, it may have been a day or so later. We stayed there Thursday, Friday, and Saturday and we left Sunday. Mr. JENNER. Was anything said during the course of that occasion or in your presence or reported to you by your wife, as to how Vada and Marina had gotten along while the Oswalds, your brother, and she lived with your brother Robert and your sister-in-law Vada? Mr. PIC. I wouldn't remember that, sir. If it was any talk it was probably on caring, and so forth, about the child and so forth, which is small talk to the men, of course. Mr. JENNER. Did you learn on that day that Lee had lived with your brother for a while? Mr. PIC. I had learned during that time period that Lee and Marina had lived with Robert when they returned, and that an attempt was made by the press and TV to contact them, but Robert wouldn't let them. He wasn't going to go through it again. Robert only had a one--two-bedroom apartment, I mean house, and I am sure when we stayed there we were crowded a little bit. My wife and I slept on the floor, and I am sure Marina and Robert, I don't know where they slept--I mean Lee. Mr. JENNER. Your children slept in the bed and you and your wife slept on a mattress on the floor? Mr. PIC. A couple of blankets on the floor, sir. Mr. JENNER. Did you learn during that period of time that Lee had lived with your brother for a time? Mr. PIC. Possibly, sir; I don't recall. Mr. JENNER. Was anything said about the fact or any allusion to the fact that during this period, up to Thanksgiving Day, there had been a time when Marina had not lived with your brother Lee? Mr. PIC. No, sir. I understood they arrived from New York, at New York together, and proceeded--there was a short stay, I think, mentioned in New York. Where they stayed, I don't know, sir, and then they proceeded to Texas and lived with Robert. Mr. JENNER. I am referring particularly to September and October and part of November 1962. Was there any reference or any discussion of it or anything said in your presence of the fact that Marina had lived apart, separate and apart from Lee? Mr. PIC. No, sir. Mr. JENNER. During one or more periods of time in September or October and November 1962? Mr. PIC. Possibly it could have been being Marina stayed there while Lee went to look for a job in Dallas. I think, that may have been mentioned. Mr. JENNER. Was there at any time mentioned even while he was working in Fort Worth, fully employed that she had separated from him and gone to live elsewhere? Mr. PIC. I am not aware that he did work in Fort Worth, sir, at any time.