Chief BATCHELOR. He was either in his office or in Chief Curry's office with him. We were all together. Mr. GRIFFIN. At the time that Curry got off the first telephone call with Decker, was there anything that Stevenson was supposed to do? Chief BATCHELOR. Well, he and I both, under Chief Curry's instructions, he said you'd better go downstairs and see what manpower you will need to cover that basement down there. One other thing, Chief Lumpkin had come in and he was the man I asked to find out for me how tall that ramp was down there, what the clearance was. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, did Lumpkin go down there before or after you called Fleming? Chief BATCHELOR. I think he went down there. He called somebody down that knew how tall it was, but that was after I talked to Fleming the first time. Mr. GRIFFIN. Does your office, Chief, maintain any records of outgoing telephone calls? Chief BATCHELOR. No, sir. Mr. GRIFFIN. At the time that you were talking to Fleming, between the time that the chief talked with Decker and you talked with Fleming, would there have been any occasion for a dispatcher to make any particular communication to the people in the field as a result of the conversation with Decker? Chief BATCHELOR. No, sir. As a matter of fact, nobody knew this. I mean, except the few people on the staff. Mr. GRIFFIN. I realize that nobody would have known about the particular contents of the conversation, but what I am getting at is, is there any reason that somebody might have said at this point he knew you were going to have to make a move, you'd better dispatch the men in? You'd better send out a general call to bring in more men? Chief BATCHELOR. This would have been handled in a telephone conversation with the dispatcher, yet nobody would know the real reason for it. Talbert did have some men called in. He did have some men called in. Mr. GRIFFIN. How did Talbert come to make this call in relation to the conversation? Chief BATCHELOR. I don't know, unless he was anticipating. Well, I don't know how to say it. It had gotten on the radio and in the newspapers and everywhere else that this was going to be at 10 o'clock, I presume, because there was people all up and down the street, across the street from the city hall on Commerce waiting for this thing to happen. Mr. GRIFFIN. Were they waiting there when you came in at 8 o'clock? Chief BATCHELOR. Oh, there wasn't anybody there that early, but they were down there around 10 o'clock. Mr. GRIFFIN. Can you think of anything that might have happened in the ordinary course of things after Decker and Curry talked, that would have been recorded in the police department? Chief BATCHELOR. About the movement of the prisoner?