Mr. GRIFFIN. No. I am particularly referring to the movement of the prisoner, but I am thinking of something that might pinpoint the time in which this conversation with Decker occurred, that Curry might have said at this point, "All right, Stevenson, bring in so many men," and Stevenson would have told the dispatcher to send out a call, and nobody would have known the purpose of the call, but it would fix a time? Chief BATCHELOR. Stevenson went back after we determined we were going to have to secure the basement and move the prisoner. He went back to his bureau and had them send some men down there, some detectives. He didn't have to call them from the field. He had them back there. Talbert sent out and got some men, and I don't know whose direction he did that on, but we went down there to see what manpower we would need. And when we got there, he had them there, and where he got this information, I don't know. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now after you talked with Fleming the first time, what did you do? After you finished that telephone conversation? Chief BATCHELOR. We went downstairs and that is when we had instructed them--it was Wiggins, I believe, in the jail office, to get that camera out of there. And we instructed them--Curry went down with us, too, and there were two cars sitting across from the jail exit door. They were sitting in these places right here. Mr. GRIFFIN. You want to take a pen and mark? Chief BATCHELOR. And we had these cars moved [marking on exhibit]. Mr. GRIFFIN. What time of the morning would you estimate that was? Chief BATCHELOR. This must have been about 9:30 or 9:15, somewhere along in there. Mr. GRIFFIN. You want to mark what you think the approximate time was in between the two cars where you marked? Chief BATCHELOR. [Indicates time.] Mr. GRIFFIN. Were there any other cars in the basement area at that time? Chief BATCHELOR. Yes; there was several other cars. Chief Curry's car was over here, and mine was over here. Mr. GRIFFIN. That is in the chief's normal parking place? Chief BATCHELOR. These all are our normal spaces. Mr. GRIFFIN. You want to mark those in there? Chief BATCHELOR. [Marks.] Mine is over here, and I don't know whether Chief Fisher was in there or not. I don't remember his. Mr. GRIFFIN. You want to put the time in between those two also? Chief BATCHELOR. [Marks time.] Mr. GRIFFIN. What time they were parked in there, the time that you are talking about right now that you saw them there. That is the same time that was on the other cars? Chief BATCHELOR. They were there all morning. They were parked there and they stayed there up until we moved them. Mr. GRIFFIN. So they were there at 9:15 to 9:30? Chief BATCHELOR. [Marks on chart.] Mr. GRIFFIN. Were there other cars in the basement area?