Mr. GRIFFIN. Why don't we state this for the record, that we have had a recess and an off-the-record discussion between Mr. Griffin and Chief Batchelor, and so that the record may be clear about where the policemen who were to guard the route which was originally planned for the transfer of Oswald, on the streets of the city of Dallas, I will let Chief Batchelor at this time explain where they were originally to be stationed, and where they were moved to. Chief BATCHELOR. They were originally stationed along Elm Street, and later were moved to Main Street where the prisoner would actually go. Mr. GRIFFIN. I believe that before we took the recess that I was asking you if at the time that you were down in the basement and examining the armored car, you were aware that a man was or was not stationed at the corner of Main and Pearl Expressway? Chief BATCHELOR. I do not know. I was not aware. I hadn't given that any thought at the time. Actually, Main and Expressway would pose no traffic problem of a turning movement, at that point, because Pearl Expressway, which is a one-way street, and the convoy would have been next to the curb, and it would pose no problem at this point, trafficwise. Mr. GRIFFIN. When Chief Stevenson came downstairs and told you that the route had been changed, where did he tell you that the caravan would turn off Commerce Street? Chief BATCHELOR. On Central Expressway. Mr. GRIFFIN. When it turned left on Central Expressway, where would it next turn? Chief BATCHELOR. The convoy would go to Elm Street, but the prisoner and a car of detectives would turn off at Main. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, did you discuss with him the reasoning behind this decoy? Chief BATCHELOR. I merely asked him why the change, and he said they decided to change it up in the Homicide Bureau in a discussion with Chief Curry, because if anyone attacked, they would have the prisoner in a car separate from the convoy and the public would not know this, and they thought this would be a wise move. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now you all were aware that the TV cameras were going to be focusing on the car or the vehicle that Oswald was placed in, didn't you? The people in the downtown streets wouldn't be able to see that, but there were also newsmen down there who were broadcasting and they would be able to tell people listening in on the radio what car? Chief BATCHELOR. You are arguing with me. I had nothing to do with moving the prisoner. Mr. GRIFFIN. I didn't mean to argue with you, chief. Chief BATCHELOR. I didn't make the decision and I don't know whether it was wise or not. It is a moot question now. Mr. GRIFFIN. Well, now, what next happened after you talked with Chief Stevenson about this change in plan? Chief BATCHELOR. This happened when he told me about it, just moments before they actually brought him down, and he told me they were bringing a car up on the ramp, two cars up on the ramp, one to carry the prisoner and one to carry the detectives.