Chief BATCHELOR. One car was right here, approximately, and the other car was ahead of it, and I am not drawing this in very good proportion, but this is the order they were in, and I was standing, and this I know in good order, because I was standing about midway of this thing, which was along about the back fender of this car, that I was standing right along here. But these cars were larger than that. Mr. GRIFFIN. Why don't you cross out that Ford car there and redraw it up where it was? Chief BATCHELOR. I was standing here, and this one was back here more in this position. Mr. GRIFFIN. Would you put your name where you have made the circle? Chief BATCHELOR. (Marks on chart.) Mr. GRIFFIN. Now do you remember what other officers or people were around you? Chief BATCHELOR. No; I don't remember who. There was a whole bunch of people. Mr. GRIFFIN. What happened when you heard the shot fired? What did you do? Chief BATCHELOR. Well, actually before the shot was fired, when I was standing along here, and when somebody shouted, "Here he comes." I started to go to that truck, that armored truck and close the doors on it, the back doors so it could take off. And I turned to do that when I heard the shot. I hadn't taken over a step or two over to the door when he was shot. Mr. GRIFFIN. Then what did you do? Chief BATCHELOR. I turned around and looked back and came over there. There was a whole group of people had him down. It was a big---- Mr. GRIFFIN. Had Ruby down? Chief BATCHELOR. Had Ruby down. They had pulled Oswald into the jail office, and then pulled Ruby in behind him. I went into the jail office to look at them, and they had Ruby down on the floor on his back and was trying to handcuff him. Mr. GRIFFIN. Let's focus on the time when they had Ruby down on the ground out there on the ramp, the ramp area. Where did you stand at that point? Chief BATCHELOR. I stood off in the crowd. I didn't even see what was going on. There was such a crowd. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you hear Ruby say anything at that point? Chief BATCHELOR. No, sir. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you hear any of the police officers say anything? Chief BATCHELOR. No, sir; not when I walked right up there to it. But I did hear someone shout, "Jack, don't you so-and-so," but this was before they got him down. I mean, this was almost simultaneous with the shot. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you follow Ruby and Oswald into the jail office then? Chief BATCHELOR. After a little bit, a minute or two after, I remained in the jail office and asked Lieutenant Wiggins if they had called an ambulance, and he said they had. I walked over and looked at Oswald, and this intern had come in and was giving him some pressure on his lower rib section. Mr. GRIFFIN. Where did you see Ruby at that time?