Mr. GRAVES. Just long enough to say that--“We are going to get him down and talk to him, and get the car ready in the basement.” Told Dhority and Brown what to do about the cars, also Beck, and so, we went up and got him and brought him down. Mr. GRIFFIN. At the time that you were instructed to go up and bring down Oswald, were Dhority and Brown given instructions by Fritz about the automobiles? Mr. GRAVES. I’m going to have to say that I am not sure whether it was at that moment, or after we brought him down, and I kind of believe that it was then that they got the cars ready and put them in the basement, and that at the last minute just before we took him down, we were instructed to move that car up there to the entrance exit of the jail office, and I am pretty sure that that is the way that went. Mr. GRIFFIN. Well, now, just directing your attention to the time that you were instructed to go up and bring Oswald down for interrogation, what other conversation do you remember taking place with Fritz? Mr. GRAVES. Well, that was all that was said to me at that time. Mr. GRIFFIN. Who went up with you? Mr. GRAVES. Leavelle and Dhority. Mr. GRIFFIN. And did you talk with Lee Oswald on your way down? Mr. GRAVES. No, didn’t say anything to him. Mr. GRIFFIN. What did you do after you brought Oswald down to the homicide bureau? Mr. GRAVES. Brought him in the office with Captain Fritz and the other people that were in there. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, what did you do when you---- Mr. GRAVES. I went back outside and started answering phones, or doing whatever it was to be done for a while, but I didn’t go back in the office until just before we were ready to move him. Mr. GRIFFIN. While you were out there answering telephones and so forth, did you hear any more about the movement of Oswald to the county jail? Mr. GRAVES. Not while I was outside, no. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you see Chief Curry come in? Mr. GRAVES. Yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did he say anything that you heard about the movement of Oswald? Mr. GRAVES. Not where I could hear him. He went in the office and this--presumably discussed something with Captain Fritz. I believe he made a number of trips there during the time that he was being interviewed. Mr. GRIFFIN. Were there any rumors circulating in the homicide bureau about how Oswald would be transferred? Mr. GRAVES. Not to my knowledge. Mr. GRIFFIN. All right. Well, then, when was the next time that you got any information about moving Lee Oswald? Mr. GRAVES. Immediately after, just a few minutes before the interview was completed, I went in the office, and we were instructed that we were to take him down, and he would be taken in the car. Mr. GRIFFIN. Who was in the office when you walked in? Mr. GRAVES. Well, Mr. Sorrels and Mr. Holmes. Mr. GRIFFIN. Sorrels is from the Secret Service? Mr. GRAVES. Mr. Holmes is from the Postal Department--I believe it is the Postal Department, and I can’t think of the other man’s name now.