Mr. TURNER. All right. All right. We arrived from Fort Bliss at approximately 1 a.m. Saturday, the 23d of November, from Fort Worth, to set up our mobile unit inside the jail for a coverage of the assassination of the President, and when we arrived there we--there was this man that resembled John Carradine of the movies quite a lot. He was very thin faced, around 40 to 50, carrying a portfolio, and another little bag with him. Looked like a shaving kit bag, or something of that effect. He--as soon as we got there, it was chilly, and we went inside the open doors on the Commerce Street side, and he was standing inside, and he immediately started talking to us about various things which we passed off as just an average person talking to you, finding out what you were doing and everything, and he talked to us about 15 or 20 minutes. He did mention in his conversation that he had been a school teacher prior to that, about 16 months before. Mr. HUBERT. Now, did he have a press badge on? Mr. TURNER. No, he had no badge on. He was wearing a light trenchcoat or topcoat. Mr. HUBERT. What height was he? Mr. TURNER. He was approximately 5 feet 8 inches. Mr. HUBERT. What would you guess his weight to be? Mr. TURNER. Oh, only around 130 to 140 pounds. Very light in weight; very skinny. Mr. HUBERT. Did you ever see the clothing he had under the trenchcoat? Mr. TURNER. No; as far as I know, I never saw him without the trenchcoat on, the whole time. Mr. HUBERT. All right; go ahead. Mr. TURNER. He--We went to the cafe down the block to grab a bite to eat at this time, waiting on the truck, and the truck arrived while we were eating, and when we got back there he was still standing there talking, and a Mexican gentleman had come out, had been drinking too heavy, and made some comment about that, just a general line of talk. Mr. HUBERT. Did he ever mention his name? Mr. TURNER. He never mentioned his name. Mr. HUBERT. Did you hear anyone else talk to him? Mr. TURNER. As long as I was over there the only ones I saw talk to him was the man, Dave Timmons, with our crew, which was up there at the time, and Richard Bice, he was there, which was with the crew, and that is the only ones I ever saw him talk to. Mr. HUBERT. Did you ever see him talk to any policemen? Mr. TURNER. Never did, sir. Mr. HUBERT. All right. Mr. TURNER. He continually, after they got set up, he kept coming up in the hallway. Mr. HUBERT. That is on the third floor?