Mr. HUBERT. Will you stand, please, and raise your right hand so that you may be sworn? Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? Mr. McKINZIE. I do. Mr. HUBERT. Please state your name for me. Mr. McKINZIE. Louis McKinzie. Mr. HUBERT. What is your age? Mr. McKINZIE. Fifty-four. Mr. HUBERT. Where is your residence, Mr. McKinzie? Mr. McKINZIE. 3321 Harmon. Mr. HUBERT. That is Dallas, Tex.? Mr. McKINZIE. Dallas, Tex. Mr. HUBERT. What is your occupation? Mr. McKINZIE. Porter. Mr. HUBERT. Where? Mr. McKINZIE. City hall, public works department. Mr. HUBERT. You are a city employee? Mr. McKINZIE. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. How long have you been a city hall employee, sir? Mr. McKINZIE. Exact--this is March and--Oh, I’d say 6 years and 6 months. That would be just about it, correct. Mr. HUBERT. What was your occupation before that? Mr. McKINZIE. Well, I did construction work mostly. Mr. HUBERT. Carpenter? Mr. McKINZIE. Carpenter’s helper. Mr. HUBERT. Carpenter’s helper? Mr. McKINZIE. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Have you been living in the Dallas area all your life? Mr. McKINZIE. No, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Where did you live before coming to Dallas? Mr. McKINZIE. I was raised at East Texas, Palestine, Anderson County. Mr. HUBERT. Are you married? Mr. McKINZIE. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Children? Mr. McKINZIE. Five. Mr. HUBERT. All grown. Mr. McKINZIE. All grown. Mr. HUBERT. What is your particular job with the Dallas Public Works Department? Mr. McKINZIE. General porter work. I keep the first floor on the public works department and water department and building permit department and general split shift. I work, oh, every day, part-time. Mr. HUBERT. Now, when you say general porter in the water works department, that is the first floor of the municipal building? Mr. McKINZIE. Yes; that’s right. Mr. HUBERT. Now, I would like you to describe how you can get into the first floor of the municipal building. All possible ways to get in the first floor? Mr. McKINZIE. Well, you have got--you have got a door on Main Street that you can come in. You have got a door on Commerce Street that you can come in. Also, have a door on the alley coming from the Western Union that you can come in, and if somebody lets you in, well, I mean, you know it is open to the public through the week, but weekends it is not. In other words, none of the doors open to the public on weekends. Just working days only. Mr. HUBERT. Those doors are locked on weekends, that is, Friday night?