Warren Commission (13 of 26): Hearings Vol. XIII (of 15)United States. Warren Commission
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Warren Commission (13 of 26): Hearings Vol. XIII (of 15)
United States. Warren Commission
Kennedy, John F. (John Fitzgerald), 1917-1963 -- Assassination; Oswald, Lee Harvey
Mr. HUBERT. When did you get him out of jail?
Mr. LEAVELLE. I got him out of jail at, oh, I don’t remember the
exact time, but it was--it was between 9:30 that morning that I was
instructed to go get him by Captain Fritz from the jail, and bring
him to his office, which I did, and I went into his cell and put the
handcuffs on him inside the cell.
Mr. HUBERT. And you brought him down to----
Mr. LEAVELLE. Brought him down, and I remained with him, or in the
office from then on up until the actual transfer took place.
Mr. HUBERT. Well, during that period, was there interviewing going on
only 15 minutes?
Mr. LEAVELLE. Well, I made a note here, “at 9:30,” but I could be in
error on that time. They may have talked--I am sure that my note is in
error here. It would probably be between 10:30 and 11, probably an
hour off of that. However, there is a transfer sign out which would
show the correct time.
Mr. HUBERT. That is what you call a--“tempo”?
Mr. LEAVELLE. The “tempo,” yes, which shows the correct time.
Mr. HUBERT. Anyway, you were with Oswald at all times from the time of
the “tempo,” until he was actually shot?
Mr. LEAVELLE. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. And any interviewing that happened in that period you were
present at?
Mr. LEAVELLE. Yes, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. So that you want to modify Exhibit 5089, in the sentence
that I read in that respect?
Mr. LEAVELLE. Yes, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. Do you know Jack Ruby, sir?
Mr. LEAVELLE. Yes, I had known him. I have--I had previously stated I
met him back in 1951, or thereabouts, when I was working the area that
his Silver Spur was located in on South Ervay, and became acquainted
with him.
Mr. HUBERT. I understand that some time in 1963, you received an
anonymous call that there was going to be a hijacking of his club. What
does that mean, a “hijacking”?
Mr. LEAVELLE. That means that someone is going to use a pistol and take
the money from the cashier, or whoever had custody of it.
Mr. HUBERT. In other words, a robbery, or burglary?
Mr. LEAVELLE. Armed robbery is what it amounts to.
Mr. HUBERT. So, in order to guard against that, you and a fellow
officer went down to----
Mr. LEAVELLE. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. Down to the club and stayed there watching for it?
Mr. LEAVELLE. We stayed there until closing time. I think they stopped
the people from coming in, I believe.
Mr. HUBERT. You did not tell Ruby what was going on?
Mr. LEAVELLE. Yes; we told--of course, Ruby was not there. This was the
Carousel Club on Oak Lawn, which was operated by his sister, Eva Grant,
and we told her what the situation was, and she gave us a--use of a
booth near the door where we could get there in the booth and observe
anyone coming in or out.
Mr. HUBERT. That was the Vegas Club on Ervay?
Mr. LEAVELLE. No, sir; on Oak Lawn. That is the Carousel on Commerce
Street.
Mr. HUBERT. The Silver Spur?
Mr. LEAVELLE. The Silver Spur, it has long since been out of existence.
Mr. HUBERT. So, you told his sister what the situation was?
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