Warren Commission (13 of 26): Hearings Vol. XIII (of 15) — John Shaqi
Warren Commission (13 of 26): Hearings Vol. XIII (of 15)United States. Warren Commission
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Warren Commission (13 of 26): Hearings Vol. XIII (of 15)
United States. Warren Commission
Kennedy, John F. (John Fitzgerald), 1917-1963 -- Assassination; Oswald, Lee Harvey
Mr. LEAVELLE. That was either just before or just after--probably just
after I had gone there and got Oswald and we were talking about the
transfer.
Mr. HUBERT. Who did you make that suggestion to?
Mr. LEAVELLE. I made it to Captain Fritz.
Mr. HUBERT. What answer did you receive from him?
Mr. LEAVELLE. Said he didn’t think the chief would go for it.
Mr. HUBERT. Did he say why?
Mr. LEAVELLE. Because, he said, the chief had given his word to the
press that they would transfer him at a time when they could make
pictures.
Mr. HUBERT. Did you convey that same idea to the chief, himself, or to
anyone other than Fritz?
Mr. LEAVELLE. Other than to Mr. Beck and Brown, Mr. Clardy that was
there--Mr. Graves rather. They probably heard me make the suggestion.
In fact, Mr. Beck made the suggestion at the same time that we could--I
know that he was there, because he made the suggestion at the time,
same time, said well, that we could either--instead of going out the
Commerce Street, in front of all the people lined up, go out the
basement in the opposite direction.
Mr. HUBERT. You mean even if you are going to use the basement, use the
Main Street instead of Commerce Street?
Mr. LEAVELLE. That’s right; and he made that suggestion. Of course,
Chief Curry had already given his word to the newsmen that they would
transfer him and let them get the pictures, and I have just assumed
since that the reason that the car wasn’t in position like it was
supposed to be was so that they could get the pictures, and the reason
for not holding to the schedule previously outlined.
Mr. HUBERT. Have you spoken to the chief about that since?
Mr. LEAVELLE. No; I have not.
Mr. HUBERT. Have you spoken to anybody about it, sir?
Mr. LEAVELLE. No; I haven’t spoke to anyone other than possibly just
some of the officers making a remark, “If he had used my suggestion,
that we would probably have made it.”
Mr. HUBERT. You said that you had reported making that suggestion in
one of the reports that you made?
Mr. LEAVELLE. Yes; I think it is in this one right here, I believe.
Mr. HUBERT. Do you have a copy of that?
Mr. LEAVELLE. Yes--that is another one.
Mr. HUBERT. Off the record.
(Discussion off the record.)
Mr. HUBERT. Well, now, you have made reference to another report
which appears on page 63, Commission’s Document No. 81-A, entitled
“Investigation of the operational security involving the transfer of
Lee Harvey Oswald, November 24, 1963,” prepared by the Dallas Police
Department. I am not going to take that page 63, which is in two parts
of the bound Commission Document 81-A, but I am going to identify it
by marking on it, to-wit, as follows: “Dallas, Texas, March 25, 1964.
Exhibit 5090, deposition of J. R. Leavelle,” signing my name below that
endorsement, and placing my initial on the second page in the lower
right-hand corner. Who prepared this document, 5090?
Mr. LEAVELLE. I prepared it. It was typed by our secretary up here.
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