Mr. GRIFFIN. How did you feel about playing at the Vegas? Mr. PATTERSON. Well, I didn’t really want to because the pay was too low and the hours were too long. But he propositioned me to cut the number of hours because I was going to college, and the other saxophone player was too going to college, and the other two guys worked. Mr. GRIFFIN. So did you finally agree to play at the Vegas with your band? Mr. PATTERSON. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. When was the last that you talked to him about playing at the Vegas? Mr. PATTERSON. About—I don’t know the exact—it was one Sunday evening, I would say, approximately two weeks before the incident. Mr. GRIFFIN. Before the assassination of the President? Mr. PATTERSON. Could have been a week and a half or a week anyway in there. Mr. GRIFFIN. At that time Jack didn’t have a band playing at the Vegas? Mr. PATTERSON. Yes; he did. Mr. GRIFFIN. He did have a band? Mr. PATTERSON. Yes. He had hired one band and one band had quit. Mr. GRIFFIN. He hired another one? Mr. PATTERSON. Yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. But the plan was that he would have had your band replace the one that was already playing there? Mr. PATTERSON. Yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you ever talk with Jack Ruby any place except at your house and the Vegas Club? Mr. PATTERSON. Well, he came out to hear us. We were playing at SMU college and he came out to hear the band. Mr. GRIFFIN. When was that? Mr. PATTERSON. This was the same Sunday that I talked to him. Mr. GRIFFIN. Any other places that you talked to him? Mr. PATTERSON. Well, I had an interview on the radio one night at the Circle Bowl. Mr. GRIFFIN. Where? Mr. PATTERSON. Circle Bowl; bowling alley. Mr. GRIFFIN. What radio station? Mr. PATTERSON. KBOX. Mr. GRIFFIN. How did you happen to be interviewed there? Mr. PATTERSON. It was the first night I met Jack Ruby. I was playing at the Vegas. I did the show, and Mrs. Grant called me over and introduced me to him, and he said, “I like the way you play. Do you want to talk on the radio?” So I said, “Sure.” So he said, “Follow me,” and me and Robert Simpson followed him over to the Circle Bowl, and Jack West was doing his night program and he interviewed me. Mr. GRIFFIN. When was that? Mr. PATTERSON. It was the first night that I met him. Mr. GRIFFIN. Back in the summer sometime, 1963? Mr. PATTERSON. No, I didn’t know him, but I would say a month or month and a half at the most prior to. Mr. GRIFFIN. But he called or spoke to you either in person or on the telephone about 15 times in that month or month and a half? Mr. PATTERSON. Yes. I mean in the same day and stuff like that, you know, on different occasions. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now on any of these occasions that you saw him in person, did he have anybody else with him? Mr. PATTERSON. Yes. The night I met him, he had somebody else with him. Mr. GRIFFIN. At SMU? Mr. PATTERSON. No. I met him at the Vegas Club. Mr. GRIFFIN. Who did he have with him?