Mr. RUBENSTEIN. When Roosevelt died he was the first one with a plaster of Paris bust, and he sold them all over the country. I don’t know, it wasn’t much. He probably paid them $1 apiece for them and sold them for $2. Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you know who manufactured them? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. No; but somebody in Chicago done Jack a favor, they made him a mold and kept on making these things for him and he either shipped them or took them and sold them by himself, always something, anything that is hot, he is right there out with it. Mr. GRIFFIN. Any others; can you think of any others? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Punchboard deals. He would pick up items that the average person couldn’t afford to buy. Let’s say a small radio, probably would retail for about $18 or $19 he would arrange on a punchboard card that from 1 to 39 cents the winner would get the radio and the guy selling the board would get a radio, that the radios would probably cost him about $5 apiece because they would buy lots of them, small radios, little ones, cheaply constructed. Well, you walk into a plant and get hold of a foreman and say, “Would you like one of these for yourself?” “Sure.” “Well, sell out the punchcard on their lunch hour, mail me the money, give the winner this radio and I will mail you a radio.” Perfect. Good gimmick. Mr. GRIFFIN. As I understand it then, part of the punchboard gimmick was that he would give some merchandise away with it, is that right? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. That is right. Incentive. Otherwise, why should the foreman take the board? The foreman wants one exactly like he is going to give to the winner, and there was always enough profit left over for Jack to sufficiently cover his expenses, and make a little profit on the side, and that was one of his other promotion deals. What else did he do? During the football seasons when he was a kid, you know, these little footballs with the school colors. He would go out to the games, Wisconsin, Ohio, Champaign, Mich., he would leave on the Friday morning with some fellow who had a car and they would load up the car with these emblems and these different school things and he would sell them. That is another one of the things he did when he was--after he got out of high school--I forgot to tell you that. That was a good deal for him. Mr. GRIFFIN. Can you think of anything else? While he was in Dallas, did he call you with anything else beside the twistboard, any other promotions he had? How about entertainers? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Yes. He had more trouble--this is a guy in charge of the union down there was giving Jack a headache. Mr. GRIFFIN. I am not asking you for his problems now, did he promote any entertainers? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. Tell us about that. Mr. RUBENSTEIN. He came up to Chicago on one time with a little colored boy by the name of Sugar Daddy, was about 10 years old. Mr. GRIFFIN. Would this have been Little Daddy Nelson?