Mr. RUBENSTEIN. No; but how else would a fellow get a name “Sparky”. Like a sparkplug, fast, you know, lightning. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did Jack have occasion to call you in the fall of last year before November 22 for any reason other than about the twistboard? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Yes; union trouble. Mr. GRIFFIN. When did he call you about that? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. I don’t remember the exact date. Mr. GRIFFIN. Tell us what he said to you and what you said to him about the union trouble. Mr. RUBENSTEIN. I can’t give you the exact words but I will come close to it. He wanted me to contact some people in Chicago who had connections with AGVA in New York, the president. I didn’t know anybody so I started calling people. I called everybody in Chicago I knew. One of the fellows I called was Jack Yanover. Jack Yanover owns the Dream Bar at 1312 South Cicero Avenue, a striptease joint. Jack and I are old friends for many years, in fact, he is one of the oldest friends I have. Jack told me two things, Jack Yanover. First, my brother Jack was looking for girls down there, was only going to pay them $150 a week for 6 weeks’ work. So Jack Yanover explained to me, he says, “You cannot get a girl to go down to Dallas for 6 weeks’ work for $150 a week and she will have to pay her own expenses, that is out. They won’t do it.” And the second problem was with the union. Jack Yanover told me that the people in Chicago, the agents, the union agents, had no connection with the agents in Dallas. It would have to come from New York, and Joey Adams, I think, is one of the big men in the organization, the entertainer Joey Adams, president. So I tried to call some people in Chicago who could get to Joey Adams or anybody else in the New York deal. I didn’t succeed, let’s put it that way. I remember now. We didn’t succeed. It was just one of those things that didn’t work out, and if I am not mistaken I think Jack tried to call some of the other boys in Chicago, one bail bondsman, I can’t think of his name, and then he tried to call Lenny Patrick, I believe, Lenny Patrick, and then I think he tried to call somebody else. Mr. GRIFFIN. How about a fellow named Barney Baker? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Baker? Mr. GRIFFIN. Barney Baker, did you ever hear of him? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. How does Jack know Lenny Patrick? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Everybody knows Lenny Patrick. When you go to school you know everybody in a school, grade school or even high school, and if you lived on the west side you know Lenny Patrick because Lenny Patrick, you walk into a delicatessen or into a poolroom, “Hi, Lenny,” “Hi, Jack,” that is how you know him. Mr. GRIFFIN. What does Lenny Patrick do? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. I don’t know what he does. Mr. GRIFFIN. Does he make an honest living? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. I think gambling is his biggest racket. I think so. Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you know a fellow in New York by the name of Frank Carbonaro?